Fucked up about sex

in #sex4 days ago (edited)

Well. My laptop charger died unexpectedly, so I'm writing Hive posts on my phone, something I used to do quite often when I was young and couldn't sleep in a lover's bed. Those early days of spending nights away from home, which I guess is as good a segway as any into my subject.


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Seems only appropriate to end the year with one of the first photos of myself I took in 2024.

I'm at a point in my life where I'm trying to redefine my relationship with organized religion, but if there's one thing we can safely agree on is it fucks you up about sex something awful.

(Catholicism, perhaps, most of all. It is, after all, the religion I was raised in, so naturally, it's my go-to when I say religion.)

Thankfully, I was raised Catholic quite loosely and left early enough that I never ended up weird about sex. I have quite the imaginative power, yet I struggle to picture myself if I'd been brought up properly Catholic. Suffice to say, knowing myself, I think I would've felt a lot of shame. Of needless shame, too.

'Cause while I don't think we all have the same level of interest in sex, I think we all naturally take some interest in it and it seems to me any religion that associates sex with sin and even worse with that hot burning place fucks you up about your own human instincts something awful.

I was having a very interesting conversation earlier with people my age who, unlike me, were raised properly, rigorously Catholic. And while I think highly of them, I couldn't help noting how messed up their relationship with their own sexuality is. How difficult to admit, even to their peers, their desires and needs. I'm a very open-minded person, yet they still struggled with the shame of admitting the fairly obvious. That they are, like us all, sexual beings, that they have needs and desires. That sometimes they are primal. To me, that's a compliment. I think it can bring about quite a lot of good (not to mention fun) to be primal. But clearly not to them.

It seems so... unnecessary to me. In my experience of life so far, how much you enjoy sex seems to have very little to do with your worth as a person, and it seems so silly to me, so needlessly controlling, to put it into the heads of young people that they're wrong or defective for wanting something so natural and so inanely good. Because I do so think sex is (more than just being "not" a sin) a good thing in your life. To quote the late Bukowski, sex is kicking death in the ass while singing. I first discovered that quote as a 17-year-old just discovering sex, and I have yet to find evidence that contradicts it. It's one of the best, most joyous actions you can partake in, so brilliant and life-affirming, it seems to me almost criminal to make the youth hate themselves and feel ashamed for doing it.

I'm lucky. I've had a great relationship with sex so far. I love it and make no secret of it. And find, as I go, that saves me a lot of trouble. I lack that compulsion to pretend I'm something I'm not, and have found, once you get past the initial hurdle of walking through life as a wanton sinner, it's quite liberating (if we're being honest).

Not that there's much of a choice. Sinners know sinners by the scent of their hearts.

I understand, in a sense, the need for "sin". I understand the need to focus the individual on what is constructive species- and society-wise. Certainly, we're now living the opposite swing of the pendulum, where the accent is on too much hedonism and string-free sex (and seeing the consequences). But. It just seems to me that this great tabooization of sex has ultimately done us more harm than good. To think of all those people who repressed such an essential part of themselves just because it was "wrong", "sinful", "dirty". For their entire lives. Maybe even burned others at the stake for it.

I've often wondered at those epithets. I live in a world where dirty is a compliment. Where you want a dirty woman, preferably with a dirty Martini. But I remember often the people who come from a different world than mine and for whom "dirty" feels like a monstrous condemnation. And whenever I think of them, my appreciation for organized religion rapidly dissipates.

I don't think you can dispute the order, the purpose that organized religion has given us, throughout the centuries, yet I can't understand (and find it hard to forgive) the myriad of repressed, self-loathing people told their desires were foul.

Do you think about them? All the people who lived and died hating their own "foul, depraved" urges? Because I think about them all the time.

It's quite an ego-trip, I know, but if I was in charge of a religion, I would put sex, that beautiful, raw, primal act of finding one another at the heart of it. Not relegated to the shameful peripheries. It seems to me such a fruitful earth to build upon.
Suppose that's why they don't leave me in charge of organized religion, eh?

(Obviously, there's more at play, such as the advent of the Pill and easily available contraception. Obviously, there's a sense of clan- protection in discouraging loose morals. But I think a lot of this "for your own good" stuff has served as a fantastic means for control and submission also.)

How and who are you about sex? Are you proud of who you are, or is it something you find hard to talk about?

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My relationship with sex is non existent- In my 33 years of being alive I never had sex. Those times when I like a girl she either doesn't like me or/and is from another country... So it was a doomed idea from the start.

With that being said I do take some pride that I have never paid for sex. But then again I wonder if I would feel the same if I was rich...

Thank you. It takes a lot of guts to talk about something so intimate, so thank you for the honest answer :) I wouldn't write it off as a doomed idea, though. Maybe you just haven't met the right person yet.

But then again I wonder if I would feel the same if I was rich...

Hmm dunno what it's like where you are, but from what I've heard prostitutes aren't that expensive here (I heard even as little as $10 can get you something...what, I did not care to learn). Obviously, it's a matter of class, better resources get you higher end prostitutes, I imagine, but I don't know that limited resources are the main impediment to paying for sex. It is something to be proud of, in my opinion :)

My thinking about paying for prostitutes/cam girls is that : if I would try them I may not even like it as much. In that case my money would be wasted. And if I would like it I would probably want to repeat/ try a new girls. So it is not so much the price of a one time that is high but the likelihood that it will not be a one time thing. And those 50-100(?) eur would quickly add up. So I rather use my money on the things I know I enjoy- like Berserk manga or HBD.

During the years I lost A LOT of hive to blackjack and dice at Hive slot games. So I think that my fear of spending too much for prostitutes/cam girls is well founded.

Ah, now I understand a little better. That's a good point about it not being a one-time thing (unless it's so disastrous, you never ever wish to repeat it, but then why pay for it expecting that outcome anyway?). No doubt, it's more fulfilling using your money for the things that enrich and bring value to your life.

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Great piece of text, I think the taboo is very unnecessary because every human does it (and hopefully enjoys doing it!) religion in all it forms doesn't help at all with this.

Thank you! You'd hope so, though certainly religion hasn't facilitated that enjoyment for anyone (if anything, sexual enjoyment seems to have persevered in spite of organized religion). :D

Most organised religions place restrictions on sexual activity (and dietary restrictions including fasting) because it is a civilisationally successful strategy.

These restrictions, especially on the young, change people physiologically (epigenetically) to be both more "civilised" and also more aggressive in war. When done on a mass scale they lead to "successful" (ie surviving) civilisations, even though their cost on the personal level can be high.

These religions have never understood WHY these restrictions worked, just that trial and error has led to civilisations adopting them being successful (ie out competing societies that did not adopt such restrictions).

In the last decade or so, Dr Jim Penman's BioHistory has established the scientific basis for why these restrictions have a civilising effect on humans. There are a number of books and videos on this, some of which are free ie https://biohistory.org/shop/epigenetics-and-character/

I find these insights as profound as "Guns Germs and Steel" about why the world is the way it is.

That's a very eloquent point. It seems to come back to quite a prevalent question in our world - how do we improve the condition of the individual while also preserving the welfare and survival of the group? And can we?

Thank you for the link, I wasn't aware of Jim Penman, but it looks like fascinating stuff. It seems we're learning at an unparalleled rate and hopefully that will help provide some of those much-needed answers.

I loved the way you talked about something so important nowadays!!! As a teenager I'm proud too that I wasn't raised like that, and now I have the space needed to discover myself through it. Can't helo but say thank you 🙌🏼✨

Aw thank you and good for you! Happy discovering ;)

Totally agree with you.
I was raised in an ambience where we never talk about sex and intimate things, but luckily this hasn't affected my capability to enjoy sex or my libido.
At the moment I'm a bit frustrated because I'd like to explore and try new things but I'm not succeeding yet. Meanwhile my gf found out that she's actually asexual, so this doesn't help 😅

Oh I'm sorry to hear that. Indeed, that doesn't sound too exploratory, but I hope you'll figure out a way around it where everyone is happy... "Yet" is the key word here. I'm sure since you're so open about your sexuality, a solution will present itself eventually. I do hope your 2025 works out with life and music - meant to comment on your post from a week ago (or so) about trying to succeed as a musician, but somehow never did. So here's to a better year ahead (in all aspects of life) :)

And thanks for the honesty - I appreciate you opening up like this to a stranger (me) on the Internet! It's never easy.

Thank you for your kind words 😊 I really appreciate all your posts, it's just that in this period I don't have much time to read everything, but when I do, I like very much what I read from you.

Happy holidays and happy new year to you too. Keep rockin' 🤘🏻