Unfortunatly I still do not see the reasoning for supporting Vaccinations. You state that they Help in some cases, but where is the meat and potatoes for that claim, can you back it up with anything, because right now you simply abandoned it all and agreed that it's hardly a base for vaccines as it's a "SCHEME".
Frankly I don't think you know enough about vaccines to make any of those calls. I will point you out to this study:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4160575/
That study is fairly recent and it discusses some Ghastly Appalling things, hence the name.
nataliejohnson knows Exactly what she is talking about, I was going to go into the history of under-reporting and outright non-reporting for vaccine induced illness or illness after vaccinations but I deleted the entire paragraph because as much as I want to shout "WHAT-SUBJECTS does it help!" while picking apart the meaningless figure of speech which unbeknownst to you excuses this scientific fraud with "not a black and white science" when in fact electron microscopy is only black and white science, and there is no Isolated viruses for the numerous vaccinations to tout, and even in that study from 2014 they only discuss Tracing virus interactions by immunogold labeling and that hardly makes up for the fraudulent pictures purported in all kinds of molecular biology Propaganda Books as isolated viruses which in many cases are normal cellular structures or pictures of cells.
The reality of the science behind Viruses is gasthly indeed, when a century ago, before electron microscopy was a tangible method, there were still those that claimed to have isolated the Polio Virus, a ludicrous claim that was nothing short of fraud.
For the record that's my area of study, my degree and certification is in Medical Sciences and my area of interest is Immunology so I have an excellent grasp of the subject....I am just approaching the subject matter with a open mind and taking note of the points being made...vaccination is still a controversial topic within the community with many points for and against it...From the early days of Louis Pasteur to Edward Jenner, the subject has remain controversial...the experiment of Jenner would cause quite a stir today but its probably one of the single greatest discovery...I have work along with doctors who would not take vaccine for anything and others that are strong believers... I am certainly not barking the horn because I have a degree and , what I am saying that the financial incentive overrides the intention to do good of many of these vaccines, as vaccines distributed without going through the necessary rigorous testing....We cannot also be ignorant of the fact the vaccination help contained the Spanish flu and the very Polio you speak of....Nonetheless, there is what is known as idiosyncratic reaction to vaccines all of which are well documented and there are special interest groups that just pump the vaccination slogan to gain financial rewards often times some of the vaccines they back has shown no efficacy in dealing with the illness...Once again I would say, the big problem with Healthcare, we have moved away from the days of William Osler and now everything is financial and that's the problem.... to summarize vaccination remains a controversial topic with points for and points against, patients must first be educated and once they agree I see no problem with that but I cannot agree throwing everything down someone throat as I am aware of the special interest who seek financial gains without regard for anyone health....your erroneous statement "molecular biology propaganda books" is out of place as we rely on these very scientist to better understand the mechanism used by these viruses to evade the immune system....the understanding of these viruses are changing constantly and many of these viruses are quite ancient and play a more critical role than previous thought, so I certainly appreciate the hard work that these guys do...I certainly agree with your statement "there were still those that claimed to have isolated the Polio Virus" as that methodology wasn't develop but we cannot use that counter the work that is being done presently....
They got me, I ran away with their propaganda thinking that I am know better off than I was before...I have fallen victim to their indoctrination and I am believer that viruses exist
Thank you for your wisdom, it was well noted. I wasn't aware of the suicide, or anything of that matter...Probably we can agree to disagree on some things....i am not fan of vaccines being thrown down anyone throat, I believe in first educating patients and then gaining consent...i also want to let you know that quite few advances in virology with regard to detection of these viruses, its no longer a mystery and the molecular biology behind a few of their mechanism are well known, PCR is transforming diagnosis as we speak, results for most of todays test are available within 24 hours and we can look at CPE to identify characteristics of certain viruses when they evade the immune system....steemian advances are being made, probably if more money is dedicated towards these kind of research rather than shareholders probably we would eradicate much more...we can all agree that vaccines aren't 100% safe but we can appreciate the thought process behind them... once again I appreciate and welcome your views, and you need not to worry I don't drink all the kool-aid thrown at me
Oh my...whats your discord or Steem.chat name, lets have a chat there, we would go on forever here