Great work destroying Steemit keep up the good work !
Special dedication to @smooth and @abit
https://steemit.com/steemit/@mallorcaman/time-to-quit-steemit
Message to the whales
8 years ago in #steemit by mallorcaman (65)
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So you noticed some flags and instantly quit? Not even re-search why those flags were given?
I mean, I would understand the frustration from unfair flags or flags that come out of nowhere - but the experiment by @abit has been happening for so long its weird how some users still haven't heard of it.
Well you are right it has been going on for some time, so by now people should get used to making less money because of flagging by whales. That's a nice thought for you, I think you should realize that having someone make less money isn't going to have that someone side with you, in fact mallorcaman is just saying that he will do what many have already done, leave. Now in what way does these people leaving help Steemit? All because @abit and @smooth decided they needed to do an experiment, who gave them the go ahead?
Every person who gives up on Steemit is one less person talking good about it, I have spent too much time talking to people about it, having convinced 3 business owners to accept steem as currency, and convincing a few dozen people to invest in steem as well. I guess the whales feel they own steemit and do as they please, its a sad sorry that has been happening in the cryptocurrency space and I guess Steemit is no diferent. I wish you the best of luck @gduran
I'm not posting anymore, but I will be around commenting and participating with some wonderful people I found in this beautiful community.
The flag war just shows that some people fighting for power and dominance think of Steemians as numbers and not human beings.
To have or to be, that's the question for Steemit.
Flags are not the tool to repair steemit but to create a reign of fear and force people to accept voluntary servitude.
Do you believe that these flags were justified? @acidyo
I haven't checked them - but its not like they are going around manually flagging people - they have a bot running that automatically flags posts that have received a big upvote, they aren't flagging it 100% or 150% of the original vote, just so it drops below the 700 MV threshold.
Let's say votes and flags didn't have transactions and users wouldn't have noticed them going up from 2$ to 20$ but instead only noticed the rewards after the flags which had put it back to 5-6. Do you think they would lose their shit the same way then and complain about something that is happening to everyone on the platform?
What say you? @acidyo
They flagged a post from my daughter a couple weeks ago, this already pissed me off bigtime. Im starting to see steemit as it is, I had high hopes but looks like these people are just out to serve themselves. The experiment is a very clear way of seeying that, getting people excited for a brief period of time along with the recent P and D price manipulation and collusion is more than obvious. There will be other social media blockchains to look out for in the future and as far as Im concerned Im done here.
sorry to be negative this is just my personal opinion and the truth is Im going through a terrible time so maybe this is clouding my judgement but this is my way of expressing myself.
Wow...
like I said its been stated what the experiment does, if someone with over 700 MV upvotes something at full weight - smooth and abit downvote it accordingly.
And how does this help build @steemit? @acidyo
The whales with 700+ MV can only vote on a certain amount of posts per day - which means that the majority of people who don't get whale votes will get a lot lower payouts in comparison. It literally makes more users votes more value-able.
Most whales have respected it and started voting more often instead and with a lower % which means a wider distribution to more users. How does that NOT help build the platform?
Do you sincerely believe that a person looking to join & actively contribute to @steemit would waste their time with a preponderance of flag war posts? @acidyo
They will because instead of earning next to nothing on their posts they will actually see some rewards because the flagging experiment is actually evening out the rewards distribution for everyone. It's not aimed at people personally.
Do you want your rewards if it means taking rewards from somebody with less than you?
When the whales vote outside the parameters set by @smooth, and @abit, it is the bad whales that are trying to stir you up by making you think that what you had was taken from you without first being taken from those with less.
The reward curve is what it is, as you move up, others fall off the bottom.
The last number I saw was $5 a month, as you make more than that somebody else gets nothing.
Were the experiment to let things go back to what it was, the onboarding would stop completely until the greedy had milked all they could from steemizens, and then moved on to greener pastures.
Folks will get bored over the next year, and most of this nonsense should stop, provided they can't continue to make a living at it, and then we can get on to finding who is going to be successful at working the platform rather than gaming it.
Not everybody can be a winner at this.
I'm guessing <30%, which means 7 out of 10 of us are wasting our time.
9 out of 10 of us will never make it to the top 10%, that is just mathmatical reality.
You make fair points, but, just think about how many people have left that could have been great additions to Steemit, all because somebody decided he had to flag them, that is the question are these whales who flag any better than the ones who up vote? I think they are worse, their flagging has not helped me make any money, it has just helped the few who are in these guilds etc, so what you are saying is true, but only for a small percentage of writers. Overall I think this flagging has been negative.
Now seeing as this isn't helping the minnows, because, frankly the dolphins vote for people whom they know (and the only people whose voting power benefited were dolphins, for minnows it raised their voting power from let's say 0.1 cents to 0.12 cents),most probably dolphins, should a dolphin now take it upon himself to flag posts who have too many dolphin votes?
I went from watching posts with .02usd round down 18 times in a row to actually getting rewards for posts and getting curation awards after the experiment started.
Those little rewards do wonders for onboarding and retention.
Whales cannot make fair votes, up or down because they didn't invest, they early/ninja mined, they have no skin in the game.
If they had paid like everybody else will have to, then they can do what they want, but when they use their insider knowledge to disadvantage everybody else, that is an issue, to me.
For the sake of the great people that are here on steemit I hope things change. As far as Im concerned im done with it , there appears to be little that is decentralized here and I have clearly mentioned my reasons in my last two posts. I invested my coins here and have had to sell at a loss and will continue to do so over the coming weeks. Hopefully my leaving will create enough awareness that people will push for better solutions I am not the only user who has made this choice. I didnt join steemit out of greed I fell in love with the concept of a decentralized blockchain social media platform, sure my mental state is not what It should be right now but end of the day I dont like how the experiments are being run
The real greedy people are those manipulating us with terms like experiment...
How is the experiment greedy?
Would you like to see the same whales and users with whale trails on trending every day? While it decreases your own posting rewards?
You do know those 2 whales are not gaining any curation rewards just to balance the platform out a bit better and give newer users more weight behind their votes.
The white paper calls rewards a Trojan to onboard folks with unrealistic expectations.I don't blame you, @mallorcaman, there is so much disinformation being spread that finding out the truth can do nothing but disillusion us, especially when that truth is that we have been misled about our abilities to earn rewards.
I recognize that stinc had to mislead us, at the very least misdirect us, or the platform would not have made it this far.
Now if we could get them to do things other than help the rich get richer perhaps normal folks could find a home here.
So, what other areas am I being misled on to take the platform further? @freebornangel
Well, if the rewards you get are good enough to keep your attention then the truth for you is what you got.
We can only speculate about the motivations of the crapitalusts that control what they called decentralized to misdirect us.
Perhaps they will sell out to google and then we can abandon the place on philosophical grounds.
Pontius Pilate would sayIn this Easter season, @freebornangel, as
"What is truth?"
When a person or group acting in concert begins to dominate an open network.
Trump : Twitter :: Chinese miners : bitcoin mining or,
School of whales : Steemit :: Trump : Twitter :: Chinese miners : bitcoin mining
At least Google had, at one time, promised to do no evil. Most likely, the sell-out will be to a Beltway based PLA Unit 61398 front company.
I absolutely agree with you on this, steemit is far from being a decentralized type of thing, the whales shouldn't get this much power at all, that makes them in charge, which shouldn't be done on a decentralized social network... The concept was amazing, but it's unfortunately not what the end product turned out to be. :-/
Steemit is based on the assumption that there will be self-sacrificing, self-deprecating, benevolent oligarchs, @abso
Thank you, very well put.
We're in dangerous waters, @ned @sneak @dan @dantheman when @steemit loses people like @mallorcaman that it needs.
“The ends justify the means mindset has been the impetus behind many a cruel medical or social experiment.” - ― James Morcan