(@Wackou)
Responding to wackou's comment
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Since I believe you're the one wasting my time with emotional and irrelevant bullshit I'll only address the relevant part where you are completely wrong.
... then you act all offended and what not because people downvote this shit?
Not offended, I was making you aware your SP was being used by @drakos on a bot that automatically flag every single of my comments below zero (censorship), the majority of them were politely informing victim of irresponsible vote selling services.
The messages censored were of the following:
"You have received a @GrumpyCat flag because you or someone else sent money to buy votes from an irresponsible non-GrumpyCompliant service.
Some bots are acting irresponsibly by selling votes on posts very close to final payout. These votes are sneaky, not promotion and are most of the time placed on low value content.
Sending money to these bots is also financially supporting for-profit only posters (spammers).
To know what voting bot to use, refer to https://steembottracker.com/ and use those that have 3.5 day or less in the "Max Age" column.
@sneaky-ninja (by @michaeldavid) is reporting 6 day but is actually selling votes up until 6.4 days.
Important warning, since @sneaky-ninja has made no effort to improve in more than 4 months, it's vote will still be countered even should he improve his Max Age setting.
Learn more, learn even more..."
by the way, doesn't your use of bidbots to promote this drivel directly contradicts the rules of your "grumpy initiative"? just saying...
No. (Have you been living under a rock?)
"GrupyCompliance is a new requirement for vote selling services to refuse and refund purchases for votes on posts that are more than 3.5 day old."
@Grumpycat is countering the SP of irresponsible bot owners like the careless greedy dipshit @honeybeee that finance and facilitate people getting paid to post spam by selling them upvotes up to the 6.4th day for a 5-10% profit though @sneaky-ninja bot.
If anyone knows him, It's about time he's made aware of it!
"Limiting abuse is unrewarded and counter productive as spammers are the best customers a bid bot can have."
source. -Themarkymark owner of @buildawhale,
Edit: Meaning bitbots owners should not be trusted to go against their financial best interest (unless they're running for witness like @themarkymark).
Why did I contact the people you delegate to?
(Who know, it could happen!!!)
I would be less likely to get any collaboration from her than by asking one of your delegatee doing the right thing to contact you.Imagine for a second that you leave Steem thinking your SP is being put to good use but overtime @Roxane turned into the next self-voting @haejin.
Now you act responsibly!
Monitor that your Steem Power is being used correctly if your don't want more drama than you're comfortable handling!
Update: @Wackou's SP is still being used for indiscriminate censorship via @Drakos via @the-resistance's bot made by @r351574nc3 (See below)
Some bots are acting irresponsibly by selling votes on posts very close to final payout. These votes are sneaky, not promotion and are most of the time placed on low value content.
Well I agree upon this, people use bots just for their profit, getting upvotes. The content of the post doesn't mean anything to them, they post shit and get upvotes, it's simply business, this kinda shit should be avoided here on this platform. People who's content is really awesome don't get that much of upvotes as they don't use bots.
I agree as well.
I really do not understand this bid bot stuff. In my view it's cheating. I don't even upvote my own posts & don't see why that is even an option. If your content is so bad you have to pay for an upvote or upvote yourself then it's not worth my time.
i like your post and agree with me
that's really what I also think.
I fell asleep after the 13th word...🤣
Looks good. Don't mind me.
I'm not a bot.
Lol...I am also not a bot ;) I got quite a chuckle.
Im not a bot either
@Grumpycat once you said this. Now @wackou and @drakos has right to do anything with their sp.
As anyone can impose whatever they want to the extent of their power.
I'm not the one whining. Hopefully they will do what's best for themselves with their SP.
@grumpycat I am a high school student ,and I made a letter devoted to you talking about flagging I hope you like it and get some reasonable points
The Link: https://steemit.com/grumpycat/@elijah-blogs/dear-grumpcat-an-open-letter-to-grumpycat
nice post
From the looks of it, you may have missed the point in the quote referenced. I was pointing out a fact, yet I continue to do my mission of preventing spammers from abusing my bot even though it harms profit and my time.
The rest of the context is important to the message.
Source
If you think I encourage or ignore spam, you really haven't paid attention to me. Which is perfectly fine, but you probably haven't noticed I put a blacklist update out every day or two, I have almost 3,500 users on the blacklist, all researched and verified manually by me. I offer this list to other bots, SteemCleaners, and curators.
It is available right here on GitHub
I would suggest to whitelist the good content creators than blacklisting the spammers. I don't know, but I don't think there are 3500 quality content creators who want to use bid bot service, but I know there would be more than 10,000 spammers, and they can always make a new account.
It would take less time to manually select the good content creators than to judge whether a person is a spammer or not.
Recently @minnowbooster applied this process, though not to a complete extent.
But of course, bid bot business will hurt badly if this process is applied, just saying!
Smartsteem.com has been doing this for months now and over 1400 users have been whitelisted so far. https://smartsteem.com/users/whitelist
Appreciate it, do you review the posts of the users who bid big, like 40-50 sbd/steem or more, or is there a cap for maximum bid?
The whitelist is currently only for the direct votes, but not for the bid-bot. Manual reviewing the bids takes a lot of time - but I personally unvoted over 40 posts from one abuse ring.
That's great!
@therealwolf
Does a higher smart score give you a higher curation payout?
very good news and link.thank you.
@themarkymark / @buildawhale is one that cares. Happy?
I can't even praise @themarkymark for being a responsible bot owner while letting him know he's hijacking the conversation with his $3.80 upvote on a comment that's now irrelevant after my edit.
@Wackou's SP is still being used for indiscriminate censorship via @Drakos via @the-resistance's bot made by @r351574nc3
ahahahaha, amazing meme.
D.
Yeah. I can predict you would edit it. It was unclear so I spoke up. It was voted up so your
slandermistake is noted.They way you put it made it look opposite of the truth. But by all means flag my comment and upvote yours. I really don’t give a shit, I just care when people
purposelymake me look bad.I could have equally told you to remove your vote after the clarification and waited but I know you're a big boy and wouldn't make a fuss about it.
Want to go out for a tea?
Don't like Tea or beer, how about Mudslides and shots?
You know the two of you could make a hell of a pair.
@themarkymark could solve your problem @grumpycat.
Care to talk about it in discord with us?
this is so immature honestly lmao.
The bot does discriminate - every identical spam comment left after you indiscriminately flag a post, is flagged. Result is that any indiscrimnate element is introduced by your own action.
Flagging spam does not qualify as censorship.
Flagging all posts that use a promotional service that you happen to disagree with, is censorship. It is the same as removing a journalist's salary and burning his articles, all copies of TIME magazine on the book shelves, because he published an article in TIME Magazine, and you disagree with TIME magazine.
Oh please.
We Are The-Resistance:
You are not alone. He also: We have seen that @grumpycat or his alt @madpuppy has flagged your post.
@the-resistance has upvoted you to help heal the damage he has done to you in an effort to protect people like yourself. Join our bot we-resist to help protect others ....https://we-resist-bot.herokuapp.com Come to meet with the community ... https://discord.gg/qMWCbWR
@GrumpyCat: you can avoid ever seeing this message again when you STOP attacking innocents. Love: @the-resistance
Been flagged 940 times this week, I'm used to it.
Can I flag you too? 😏
By all means.
I think grupmycat was saying you were a responsible bot owner:
That was added later and it has nothing to do with my witness. I work in the security field and don’t have tolerance of spam and it is just what needs to be done so this place doesn’t become worthless. Everyone is free to their opinions though.
I agree with not trusting though money changes people or amplifies their true nature.
cool
Im a grumpy's fan...
i support you to man... theres not being one flag which i saw and disagree.
D.
Sadly this buying/selling bots issue is getting out of control. I was a daily user, since I joined here (almost 10 months ago) and lately I'm kinda disappointed with how Steemit works, its almost imposible to get a decent organic vote, some whale or some user with a good SP that has read some great post and decided to upvote it because he think it worth the work. Almost everyone with decent SP is selling votes, or in a voting circle, a lot of communities are helping minnows with some good vote to encourage them, and thats awesome but thats it, after you realize your not going anywhere if you are not buying, selling or in a circle that is kinda sad to see how its going. I really like how some people are trying to do something about it, like you with this post 3-5 days bots selling votes, and some others trying to keep it as honest as posible, but for me this is just the tip of an endless problem, (wish Im wrong and future prove me wrong about it) but Steemit is leading to some pyramid scheme that is almost imposible to break after its running.
You spoke my mind friend!
The only way, in my opinion, to stop bidbots is to create a negative stigma around them. Call the users thieves, because they are stealing from the reward pool. Call the owners scumbags, because they are enabling the thieves. Do this in every post. Even if it's just in the form of a banner. Most of us don't have the vested share to really do anything about it. But we all have a voice. And together we can mold this platform into a much better place.
Do you know what we can do? We can fill up the comment section of a large whale where heavy topics are discussed, but do you for a second think any of them will be taking you seriously or remembering what you wrote for more then a few minutes? Its not out of malice, but rather a instinctive reaction people have.Steemit has become centralized and in that aspect Steemit has failed. Look at even @grumpycat here. Agree of disagree with him he is the probably the only guy on steemit that has enough power that is willing to fight bot abuse with it. Is that a community action? No, its one guy trying to do something because he has the power to do it. Affecting the ecosystem is completely in the hands of the top100 accounts.
Without the SP our voice is literally insignificant. You dont have any kind of effect on the platform and people will hardly take your voice seriously like they would of someone like Grumpy or Mark or even Haejin.
Some other whales try to do the same as Grumpy, in a different way but when you have so many benefiting from a flawed system what really can you expect.
I mean it might sound like a shit thing to say, "collateral damage" but how do you expect one guy to get it right every single time. Mistakes are bound to happen.
helpful about this post?
Abuse will only stop if whales stop delegating their steempower to the bots.
Whales will never stop doing that. Its just too profitable for them.
I hope you guys settle this in a timely manner. The less drama on the platform, the more interesting it is for newcomers.
Also, if @sneaky-ninja becomes #grumpycompliant you should stop hitting the buyers solely based on the fact that it took so long to become grumpy compliant.
wow..
this is so helpful post.
keep it up,,
thanks for sharing..
What was helpful about this post?
I followed you just on the basis of the Octopus with a videogame controller on it's face!
hope you are fine as well as. I read your blog full of attention.. I wanna know about your success story.. write your success story.. it inspired us..hellow @grumpycat,
love,
o
This is serious issues that needed to taken care of without causing more trouble for both account. All will be well.
This post has received a 15.23 % upvote from @booster thanks to: @madpuppy.
You got a 58.61% upvote from @postpromoter courtesy of @grumpycat!
Want to promote your posts too? Check out the Steem Bot Tracker websitevote for @yabapmatt for witness! for more info. If you would like to support the development of @postpromoter and the bot tracker please
pls how can i get votes
Hey,this is good to meeting with you.if you wanna some steem power and upvote.then follow me and up vote me. @kawsarkst14
@grumpycat, nice, stuff, your cat's gif photos and videos are cute and interesting
As the-resistance we don't care about your self upvotes.
You can upvote yourself as much as you want unless you hurt innocent minnows.
But, when you talk about it as a bad thing...I guess you'd better walk the walk.
this post evere thing all
bots are acting irresponsibly by selling votes on posts very close to final payout. These votes are sneaky, not promotion and are most of the time placed on low value content
post man
you see
and replied
NICE POST!!!
please upvote,comment and follow me
You got a 14.49% upvote from @slimwhale courtesy of @prometheus21!
Solo con la mirada del gato al final hace calmar rabias
I am extremely neutral :P
https://steemit.com/@jessblair hi great post u have a new follow i hope u follow me back
You're a grumpy spammer, using a bot to flag posts you haven't read then continue to upvote your spammy garbage comments. I find it amusing you call others out for acting emotional. Take time to think about it, be calm, cheer up. Your frantic public tantrums will only isolate you further. Come to the table, work with others on a transparent blacklist that can be reviewed regularly. Give a hand and atop abusing the flag.. read posts .. if it's spam (not relevant and aimed at profit like your operation and 'polite' comments , flag it). I know I will. But whatever you do, don't abuse the flag to punish people's for doin something you disagree with.
Bot? Who's paying me to evaluate the garbage @sneaky-ninja is making money with?
I will be very respectful now, because you show me respect..
Sir/Ma'am, to my knowledge there is no more nor any less garbage on posts promoted by any single bot - to prove so in any case would be a monumental task because one has to decide on what is 'garbage'. This is a decentralized system meaning that you or I and everyone else gets to decide individually without targeting anyone based on which bot they use or what content they produce, or what comments they flagged.. the flag isn't a punishment for anything except something directly related to the post itself. Targeting all people who have a green icon or all people who have used bot-x is simply unreasonable and unfair. Your assumption (that sneaky-ninja posts are all garbage) is with good intention, but without any support in evidence. On this question of defining 'garbage'. If you can say you read my post and found it objectionable, or without value, i can not object.
AFAIK @sneaky-ninja makes a decided effort to control the quality of posts - he/she has a blacklist as well which is updated regularly and transparently so. Others do as well, and other do not.
As to who pays you:
You get a free pass, sir/ma'am - you get to post duplicate comments and upvote them yourself.. several in a day. this is profitable for you. Also, you victimize people who are posting good content or bad content, in the same way. Your 'campaign' sir, I think, is misguided but it has amounted to everyone except @the-resistance standing up and saying 'no more spam comments - we downvote the comment so you don't get the payment'. Now, we are within our rights because your comment is spam: it doesn't related to the content of the post at all. I also have reservations flagging your comment anyway, because sometimes your comment appears below junk content.. but once again, the comment is not related and I believe you haven't read the post. If someone else leaves spam, i flag it too. One time @themarkymark came and flagged an unrelated post of mine because I flagged his spam left by a bot. I agree with what you and he may be trying to do, but I believe your common method of flag abuse, is essentially wrong, with all respect to your best intentions.
Mark does not upvote his own comments and he also runs a manual effort to scan things - i am sure he also reviews his decisions. Of course, these are great things too. In that regard, he is doing exactly what all of us ought to be doing - curating responsibly.
thomas aka. bushgrad
Furthermore, I'd gladly support your campaigns if you used a method to scan the content - there are ways to do this I am convinced, and the methods can be a great improvement on methods that are already being deployed on the platform. It can be a community effort. But I do believe your current method is a bit like throwing the baby out with the bathwater - you dispense altogether with quality ratings or blacklists and go with a broad generalization. If someone gets paid out once on bad content, the next time he tries to pay a bid-bot he can no longer do it. This is way better than preventing him from paying to promote until 6 days - because others can promote until 6 days by self-upvoting. I hope you see my argument point and if I am in error, we can certainly talk. Now I have my day job duties to fulfill, so best regards.
How about you start blogging, make reports and attract some audience to upvote (pay you) like everyone else does?
i like your statement @grumpycat that was so meaningful and have a lesson for everyone..thanks for sharing..
Dude, I think you've been outed:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2182214/pg1
very good your article called my attention
Bots, bots, everywhere!
D.
Nothing indiscriminate you whiny pussycat. It's the automated bot. I'll have the bot master check it and fix it.
Great picture ("-")
This is not kidding issues that expected to dealt with without causing more inconvenience for both record.
Thanks @grumpycat has provided meaningful learning from the post you preseted 8 hours ago, and it shows how to know many things and professional work system in steemit and this is the most useful thing for me and my friends all over the world.
hopefully fore better and more professional
Very kind god bless u plz help me god help u
nice post. This information is right .
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peace love hang loose brother ...
Excelente post amigo...
Totally agree with this post...Help and support each other and the world as a whole--a better place...
creative job @grumpycat, thank you for sharing.
I came for the Grumpy cat.
The rest was intriguing. I skimmed.
I digested.
kept scrolling for the cat.
finally - Success!
Hey @grumpycat I see you're starting to Post to your Blog more and more recently. Why don't you just start posting actual real Content that has Value in the Syeemit ecosystem instead of just this Drama ??.
You know topics like how to help with World Hunger by forming a Charity here, or maybe a real day in the life of a Grumpy and how he helps the World, or hell you could talk about World politics and how we could make our Countries more livable. The topics are literally limitless
Just Blog about things that real Bloggers talk about instead of talking about this kind Drama all the time,
Diversify !!
Maybe then you will gain a little more respect in the Community.
Just sayin'
one machine, done a lot of work. was able to do it