Apartment shopping in Da Nang: A hilarious and maddening exercise in futility

in ASEAN HIVE COMMUNITY6 days ago (edited)

Almost everyone I know lives in a condo that they are "ok with." I only know one person who is really happy with the place that they currently live in. Everyone else is constantly looking around for something better but the way that this city seems to work, the people with properties don't really have to do a good job maintaining them in order to keep occupancy high.

I can say this is true with my own building even though it is one of the more expensive ones in the area: The walls have paint bubbling up because of moisture/ potentially mold, the TV's are ancient in relative terms meaning that the smart functions are VERY slow if they work at all, and the sofas and beds honestly should have been replaced a long time ago. The drains are almost always clogged and the only thing they do is bring up some drain cleaner that works for like 2 days and doesn't begin to address the actual plumbing problem, and the air conditioning is archaic and inefficient. The thing is, the landlord doesn't ever change these things because if there ever is a vacancy in this building, it doesn't stay that way for long because it seems that almost everyone in town is constantly looking for a new place to live since nobody is really happy with what they are living in.

Recently I started looking for a new place to live and got an agent involved in helping me.


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She told me she had a two-bedroom house for rent and this notion really appealed to me because since I have Nadi, my dog, not having very much space is something that I really feel bad about in my small condo. Once she sent me the pictures though I knew that I didn't even need to look at this place.

The front door is a sliding glass door and there are no security bars. While violent crime is almost non-existent here in Vietnam, property crime is extremely common. Anyone who has ever had a sliding glass door probably already knows that getting in one of these things without the keys is not something you need the A-team to accomplish. Simply push up on one of the doors and it comes off the tracks and you can quietly simply move it out of the way without breaking anything or making any noise. Sure there is a gate outside but that could be hurdled quite easily especially if they have tools or a ladder.

Sine the only valuable things I own are small and easily stolen, and because I have had my house robbed twice when I lived in Thailand and am still a bit traumatized by the experience, there is no chance I am going to move into this place.

She sent me some pictures of some higher end condos as well.


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It seems like almost any condo in this city has the same shite furniture in it. For me, sofas and beds are very important because that is where I spend most of my time in my room when relaxing. How the frack are you going to relax on that thing above? You gonna just lie down? I see no way that a person could actually sit on that. Also, I get angry when I see any glass top tables because after years of experience I already know that this is some chipboard crap that is probably half rotten already.


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Also, almost every condo I have ever seen has one of these units in them. I call them "tat cabinets" or "crap shelves." I don't understand their inclusion in any apartment. What am I going to do, buy vases?... maybe put my socks on display? Why can't we just have closets and drawers? This is ubiquitous as well. It's just the norm and when I ask my Vietnamese friends why they are in there, they don't know either.

This isn't the main frustrating point when shopping for a condo or house here though, the real problem is that there isn't any real sort of system as far as the agents are concerned. It ends up working like this when you get an agent.

  1. Agent asks you what your "budget" is
  2. Agent sends you a few listings that all just happen to be right at the apex of whatever said budget was
  3. You find out later that people that are already living in that building pay or paid a wildly different price than you were quoted by the agent.

So to me I think this quandary is really easy to figure out: The agents use your budget as a gage for how much they can rip you off. Since everyone kind of knows this is the case, customers are very hesitant to ever move fearing that the new place could actually end up being worse than what they currently live in. No takebacks!

I am very up-front with my agent and told them what I am looking for as far as square meters, location, type of furniture, and the fact that the place needs to allow pets. I refuse to tell her my budget. I can see that she doesn't like that I am playing the system like this because after the first 3 listings she sent me complete with an absurd amount of photos that are clearly from different rooms, she doesn't send me any more. I think the agents get frustrated with you as well and if you don't rent something right away they don't want to help you anymore. They want an easy and quick sale.


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I'm not really happy with my current place and this is why it looks kind of disorganized. I don't really care as long as Nadi is comfy and that is why she gets more of the couch pillows than I do. That sofa is really run down and I have already told my landlord that if she wants me to stay another year that I need a new sofa, a new mattress, and a new washing machine. She said she would consider it but I already know what is going to happen: She will simply not address the situation ever again because she knows that if I do move out that she will easily be able to rent my unit to someone else without changing, fixing, or upgrading anything and I suppose, from her standpoint, I can understand why she would do that. She doesn't NEED me to stay there because she can easily rent it out to someone else and probably for more money too.

The only people I know that have houses or apartment/condos that they are happy with they found them by just walking around an area and seeing a sign. Then they go and visit the unit without an agent being involved in the process. This way there are no tricks and no padded rental fees. It's a shame that it is this way but honestly, that is just how it is here in Da Nang especially in the areas near the beach that are popular with expats. For me, I rarely go to the beach at all and don't really care if I am near it. I think I will start to go on long walks or bike rides in other areas that are further away. Maybe that is where the hidden gems are.

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wow beautiful design...

Wow, that definitely sounds like quite the hassle. It's too bad that there can't be some kind of standard that they have to adhere to. I hope you are able to find a nice place. Everyone deserves to be comfortable. Especially when they are spending their hard earned money.

 4 days ago  

Unfortunately I don't think it is going to change. I saw a listing that I really liked just yesterday in fact, it had been online as far as I know for less than a day. I contacted everyone, the person who posted the listing, my own agent, other people's agents, and nobody even responded for around 7 hours. By the time anyone even bothered to answer or do anything, the place was rented.

Ugh, that's horrible. I would be so frustrated. I remember when we lost out on a house we wanted and how much that sucked. Having to go through it multiple times would push me over the edge!

wow the place is very beautiful i hope i can afford this someday it is very nice nd perfectly.

 6 days ago  
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 6 days ago  

You'd better go around to find the best one 🙌 especially when you want to find a place which is pet friendly. I accompanied a friend to find a room a few months ago, because she has 2 cats, it's almost impossible to get a good one. After visiting and checking 5 apartment buildings, we're about to collapse 😄 no pet allowed 😭.

But, then we found the new apartment, they don't allow pets at first, but then, negotiate, agreement was made and in a few next months, I think my friend is going to buy a unit for her and her beloved cats.

And I think that tat cabinets or crap shelves really do not necessarily exist in a condo or apartment 😅 it's a room not galleria.

 4 days ago  

Having a pet really does make it more difficult. It's a shame that here at least the agents don't do their jobs very well. I have been at places that I kind of liked and was ready to put a deposit and then they tell me no pets allowed.... even though it was the very first thing I said to them.

 6 days ago  

I'd imagine a well interior-ed place would be easy to get by, or at least will command a higher price. Seems like rental yield in Vietnam is relatively low compared; hence, costs will be kept at the minimum (i.e. basic furniture and generic design).

 4 days ago  

the apartments are all so similar it seems like the owners much all shop at the same store.

Keep looking is all you can do and you might get lucky. Looks like the same bog standard furniture is in every rental and that is not going to change. I agree a sliding door is not great for security even tough you can get those extra locks that ensures it cannot be lifted off it's rails.

 4 days ago  

I agree a sliding door is not great for security even tough you can get those extra locks that ensures it cannot be lifted off it's rails.

IT seems to me like this would just be standard equipment in houses but I have never seen them on any house here.

That is land lords not giving a toss about how secure their tenants are. Two extra locks makes the sliding door secure besides breaking the glass. We have an expander door that the gives it other layer of security and you can leave the sliding door open.

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