I've been live streaming for about a year now and while cries of "YouTube is Dead" have been a common sight, none have really backed up that claim with anything but personal opinions and stories. Today I'll show you a few reasons why YouTube is dying, all backed up with data.
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Additionally, this is the first of a series of streaming platform reports I'll be doing. At the moment, I plan for these to be a quarterly affair, but if you guys end up really liking it I'll bump that up to monthly or even weekly!
Creators are moving elsewhere
Between Q4 of 2017 and Q1 of 2018, the number of live streamers grew on every platform. Well, every platform except YouTube where the number of streamers dropped by 30%. For comparison sake, here are the percentages of growth for other popular live streaming platforms:
- Twitch saw 33% increase in streamers
- Mixer saw a HUGE 282% increase in streamers
- Periscope saw a significant 126% increase in streamers
- And Facebook saw a 36% Increase in streamers
In an industry where average growth is 90%, YouTube posted a 30% decline. That's huge. It's a sign that YouTube has lost its appeal for content creators, and I think many of us know why. There's been a host of issues which have plagued creators including:
- Decreasing revenue from ads
- Constant demonetization issues
- Increased partner requirements
- Decreasing views and engagement on videos
- And more
In general, YouTube has done a lot this year that's harmed creators both big and small. Now we're beginning to see the effect of those actions.
It's not just the creators who are tired of YouTube's actions
Perhaps one of the most surprising things to me was the decrease in viewers. YouTube has always been a giant and thus commanded tons of viewers, but even they are fed up with YouTube's actions during the last year.
Again, we see a similar trend, viewers grow on every platform except YouTube. Here are the percent changes so you can compare:
- Twitch viewers are up 21%
- Facebook viewers are up 103%
- Periscope viewers are up 18%
- Mixer viewers are up 90%
- and YouTube viewers are down 11%
While not quite as severe as the drop in creators, it still shows a drop when the average growth in the industry is 44%. If YouTube leadership wasn't concerned about the drop in creators they will be about viewers.
For Creators: How to make use of this information
There are a few key takeaways from this info for live streamers and other content creators:
- YouTube is hurting, the drop in viewers and creators could be indications of the platforms slow death. But, there is still time for the team behind YouTube to make changes and woo content creators and viewers back.
- Smaller Live Streaming Platforms are seeing a large amount of growth, and are definitely worth checking out.
- Don't put all your eggs in one basket. Twitch may be doing well now, but it could go the way of YouTube a few years down the line!
Now I could just stop here, but there's a lot of really interesting data in these graphs and I want to explore that more.
Based on the above info, which platform has the best ratio of viewers to streamers?
One way to assess what games are good for streaming is to analyze the ratio of streamers to viewers. Sites like twitchstrike.com are great for this, but I've never seen an analysis of streamer to viewer ratio for platforms. So let's do that!
After some quick maffs:
- Twitch's viewer to streamer ratio is 26.4 to 1.
- YouTube's viewer to streamer ratio is 44.4 to 1.
- Mixer's viewer to streamer ratio is 1.5 to 1.
- Periscope's viewer to streamer ratio is 27 to 1.
- Facebook's viewer to streamer ratio is 16.1 to 1.
The only surprising thing for me with the above info is Facebook's viewer to streamer ratio. It's been my and several others who I know's experience that Facebook streams rack up hundreds of views a night, which certainly doesn't speak to the 16.1 to 1 viewer ratio there.
Take my stream last night for example. I streamed to Facebook, YouTube, Twitch, and DLive and got:
- 686 views on facebook
- 36 views on YouTube
- 19 views on DLive
- and 10 views on Twitch
If YouTube has such a higher ratio of viewers to streamers why did my Facebook stream blow it out of the water?
Differing systems for stream distribution
One of the biggest differences in these platforms is the way viewers discover your content. On Twitch, streams are organized by games, and within those game categories, by viewers. Streams with the highest viewers start first while streams with fewer viewers are pushed towards the bottom. This creates a system where the top 5% of streams own 65% of viewers. (This data is based on data provided by twitchstrike.com.)
On YouTube, videos are discovered through a combination of browse page recommendations and search. I don't have more than my own data to back up this claim, but I believe that if you are not partnered/monetizing your videos, you won't be placed on browse page. Simply put, I believe that YouTube only promotes videos which are can generate ad revenue. Which, makes sense since that's how they generate revenue.
On DLive, videos aren't sorted into subcategories based on games like they are on Twitch, however they are sorted by views resulting in a similar scenario where the top streams will own most viewers.
The interesting one however is Facebook. Obviously, something drastically different must be occurring to deliver such stellar results! And luckily for me, my viewers on Facebook let me know what happened. Facebook sends notifications to people who like/follow the game you're streaming when you go live. I don't know exactly how it works, but it looks like Facebook is trying to grow their live streaming big time and are sending push notifications to do so. This means that streaming to Facebook could see you tapping into a huge audience even if you're a small streamer.
Lastly, let's talk revenue
Another important factor to consider when looking at streaming platforms is revenue generation. Overall, tipping is up 33% and a total of $34.7M was sent to streamers in Q1 2018. Additionally, the number of monetized channels are on the rise:
- Channels earning more than $1 are up 37% from 106K to 146K.
- Channels earning more than $10 are up 33% from 66K to 88K.
- Channels earning more than $100 are up 29% from 24K to 31K.
- and Channels earning more than $1000 are up 50% form 4K to 6K.
This data is great and all, but if you're looking for money which platform is best right now?
Best Platform for Revenue Generation
If you're a small or medium sized streamer, DLive is hands down the best platform for generating revenue from your streams. More money can be made from other platforms if you have a large, well established audience, but the majority of streamers will find that DLive is a quick way to begin monetizing live streaming!
I for one made around $600 USD streaming to DLive in Q1 2018 while earning only $20 from all other platforms (in the form of a tip from a viewer).
Conclusion
So, let's summarize this:
- YouTube is seeing a significant decrease in viewers and streamers at a time when every other platform is experiencing growth
- But, even with this drop - it still has the best viewer to streamer ratio. Periscope and Twitch come in at second and third respectively.
- In terms of organic reach and content discovery, Facebook is best right now thanks to their notifications sent out when a streamer goes live.
- In terms of revenue generation, DLive is one of the best ways for small to medium sized streamers to monetize.
If you're a content creator and this helped you, let me know in the comments below. Depending on the reception, I'll make this a monthly or even weekly report. Additionally, let me know what other data and analysis you'd like to see here and I'll do my best to incorporate it in the next report.
Oh, also, here're the sources I used for this report:
- Data collected from my own streams on YouTube, Facebook, DLive, and Twitch.
- Data and graphs from the Streamlabs Blog.
- And data from twitchstrike.com.
One quarter is not enough to tell
Fair point, but the fact that YouTube is in decline while the entire industry is growing is a major indication of bad times ahead for the platform. I'll be following up on the data on a monthly basis, so we'll see over time, but this combined with the sentiment by many in industry leads me to believe this is the beginning of the end for YouTube.
That is unless they make some major changes or Twitch screws up massively, both of which are certainly possibilities!
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thanks!
streemitAudience-wise, Youtube wins. Revenue-wise, the Dlive/Steemit win. I think one of the best things to do is what @jerrybanfield has done for few years. Promote videos on Youtube and bring them on something like @dlive or . However, sooner or later it will become known to everyone because of sustainable payout from Steemit. Great for bringing awareness @capnsostre
Agreed - it's just plain lazy to not be uploading to multiple platforms at once!
save the youtube :/
I agree, I don't want to see it die, but at the same time - they aren't making the right choices and it's showing in their numbers.
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In summury I completely disagree with the title.
You cannot predict the whole future based on just some statistics from a quarter.
Not to forget that Google is still giant of the internet and youtube is its own product.
On the other hand, you are talking only about live streams while youtube serves many different purposes.
The title may be a little dramatic (to help with views), but I think that this statistics when combined with overall sentiment by many in industry offer a really solid basis for a declining youtube. You have to remember that while YouTube may have only lost 30% of it's creators this quarter, that's not the whole story.
Other platforms are gaining on average 90%, putting youtube's performance a whopping 120% lower than industry average right now. Even if it's just one quarter of data, that is a big deal. This type of performance isn't going to be remedied next quarter, and I expect similar numbers unless YouTube makes some major changes (which is always a possibility).
Additionally, I'm a content marketer and for years now the entire industry has agreed that live content is the future of video consumption. This makes data from live streaming a very viable source for predicting the future. In time, live streaming will overtake pre-recorded content as the primary form of video consumption and creation, and the platforms that cater to live content best will be the future hubs of video consumption.
If YouTube loses the fight it will always be second to Twitch or whoever else claims the live content crown.
The world isn't only America.
Please link to that post. I don't know what number they are pulling, but that'd make them bigger than facebook, which I don't think is the case. It's likely that this number is the total log ins, not unique log ins. So not 1.8 billion accounts, but maybe 300 million logging in 6 times a month or something of that sort.
I think its unique, and I also believe Facebook has over 2 billion monthly active users which still make it number one.
Here's the source of my screenshot https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/3/17317274/youtube-1-8-billion-logged-in-monthly-users-brandcast-2018
Please let me know if I missed or misunderstood something here.
interesting - yeah, that puts them very close to facebook.
Fantastic well written write up. I got lost in some parts, but your conclusion brought everything back together. It doesn't surprise me that YouTube is losing users due to lower ad revenues, some of my favorite Youtubers talk about how much the ad revenue has been sucking lately. I hope users leave Twitch for Steem, DTube, and Dlive. When do you think that tipping point will be? It could happen so fast over the course of a few months. I noticed recently one of my favorite Youtubers, the hodge twins joined Steemit. I like the view to stream stats you posted. I would be interested to regularly here these statistic updates! I bet you could correlate a decrease in YouTube creation with an increase in Steem Price!
Ah! That's an interesting one, I'll definitely include steem price data in the next one to see if it correlates to any industry metrics!
Honestly, I don't think that tipping point will come soon. I think DLive and DTube are still in the very early stages of adoption. It would take them years to displace Twitch and YouTube, unless something major happens. Even still, it'll likely be a slow and gradual change.
I feel like I've just came out of a cave. I only ever watch youtube videos. And I know facebook exists but lol.. Twitch, Mixer & pericsope are all new to me. Thanks for sharing. I learn something new today
Haha, no problem. Mixer is microsoft's live streaming platform, it's more adopted on Xbox where it's native, but the PC numbers (what was used in this article, Xbox statistics are unavailable) are not too shabby!
Periscope is Twitters platform and it caters more to IRL streams.
Twitch is currently owned by Amazon and is the current holder of the live streaming crown, definitely recommend checking it out if you enjoy live content.
It's fun playing around with these numbers and theories. :-)
Like others already said, the time frame is too small though and many other factors need to be considered. For example, how active are you on each platform. Do you have the same amount of followers on each?
I'm also happy to see that other people are streaming to more than one platform. What method do you use, @capnsostre? Is it similar to the one I describe in my tutorial?
I use restream itself and just pay using earnings from here on DLive.
I have 26 followers on facebook, 73 on Twitch, 200 and something here, and 934 or something like that on YouTube. So, if anything YouTube should be my best performing platform, but it's performance is underwhelming.
I used to get 400-500 views a night from YouTube, but now I only get 40-50. I actually spend the most time here on DLive if we're referring to activity as commenting and liking other creators stuff, but the trouble is that DLive, while great for revenue, is pretty much all creators and no viewers at this point.
So I'm earning some $250 a month, but there aren't any regulars in DLive chat where as I have regulars on every other platform.
I woundn't say dying. It is rather a small change. YT is doing good.
It may look small, but when you consider the fact that YouTube is the only platform to post a decline, it is huge! As I mentioned in the post, the average growth for these other platforms is something like 90%, but YouTube is in a 30% decline. That puts them 120% behind industry performance.
Plus if they keep losing 30% of content creators each quarter they will quickly die! It may seem small at first glance, but it really is quite an issue. I'm sure YouTube leadership is concerned right now.
Really, You Tube deserves it. They have mixed politics with entertainment, demonetizing conservatives channels like Mark Dice's, Diamond and Silk's, etc. Even "neutral" ones like Tim Pool's. I hope they change their way before is too late.
I think the political issues are really not the biggest factor in the decline. Even though many like to complain about it, if we're being honest it's been that way for years. The biggest factor in the decline is likely the lack of ability for small channels to monetize and the decreasing income for medium and large channels.
Nice article, good to see Dlive and other formats take over
Thanks! Yeah, slowly but surely these other platforms are beginning to take a piece of the pie.
Great article man!
Thanks! :D
Great article its interesting how one of the largest ,or if not the largest video sharing service is going through a great depression like the USA in the 30s but the problem with this economic depression is that it looks like there will not be a salvation to it but great post and well created.
Well, I wouldn't say there isn't a chance for YouTube to redeem themselves! The team still has plenty of time to make changes, and if they do, it's possible they still survive and even go on to be one of the major players in video consumption and creation.
It's a matter of how soon they make those changes though! Surely the leadership is taking note of this decline, but it's a matter of whether or not they make the necessary changes to lure creators and their audiences back to the platform.
surely but as you stated they are critical on time.
Oh for sure! The longer that a creator spends on a different platform, the more that creator will build an audience and thus an attachment there. If a creator earns any amount of money from that platform I'd guess YouTube's chances of winning them back are bleak. A twitch affiliate won't have any reason to go back to YouTube no matter how much they change!
Great article! Thank you for being such a valuable member of the community. This was great information.
Thanks for the share and everything. :D Love what you're doing with dlive24hour too!
The problem with YouTube is that they are such a giant, and they want to keep as much revenue to themselves as they can. They want to give less to the community for it too, and with the privacy issues, revenue issues, and more, content creators are branching off from the giants to be off on their own things.
Dtube is great, but if everything from youtube came here overnight i doubt that steem can handle it.
That's a fair point! I also don't think everyone will hop over to Steem right away. We are gaining steam (pardon the pun), but it'll be a slower growth compared to some of the other platforms!
Youtube has been blocking many channels without any reason & warning for several months. People are protesting on Social Media & they are saying that they are following Youtube Community Guidlines very carefully but Youtube is blocking thier youtube channels without any indication & warning.
People are tired of the tyranny of Youtube
Petition · Google, Inc: Fire Susan Wojcicki as YouTube CEO https://www.change.org/p/google-inc-fire-susan-wojcicki-as-youtube-ceo
Forgot to mention this, but you are right. it's a fairly well known thing that your videos and even channel can be deleted without warning.
Good one am going try out Dlive and twitch, hopes it works out for me and im going try the rest of them.. make it a monthly review, its good to know where the people spend there time online
Definitely recommend DLive. Also be sure to give Facebook a shot. I use restream to stream to Facebook, DLive, Twitch, and YouTube at the same time and it sort've allows me to get the best of all worlds. haha!
from now on that's exactly what i'm going to do for sure
Thanks for a great analysis! Does this only apply to live streaming?
So most of this data is compiled from live streaming. A few are from streaming and video combined and some is only gaming while others are across multiple categories of content.
I chose live streaming data because live streams, and specifically gaming live streams, are one of the fastest growing forms of video consumption currently around. While pre-recorded content won’t be going away anytime soon, live content is the undisputed future of video.
This makes it a good choice for the data within this report as it’s going to more closely align with future trends of video consumption.
Very interesting observations, I like how you structured your analysis. Really didn't expect Facebook stream to outperform the other channels;-)
Me neither! But it's quickly becoming one of my best channels for exposure! Even outperforming YouTube on which I have almost 1,000 subscribers!
Nice to see an analysis platform wide. Most other people showing statistics do so to show how the algorithm changes impact viewership numbers.
If people really are leaving YouTube, there's good reason for it.
Thanks! I was wary of including too much of my own statistics as they aren't representative of the whole, but I do have a very marked decrease in reach after the algorithm changes went public!
The common thread seems to be anything conservative lean, supportive of gun culture, sometimes just when the person starts making enough to be independent, like pew die pie.
Well, there was a new bot implemented which went on massive demonetization sprees for pretty much anything and everything. Now it seems like you have to do only makeup tutorials or cooking videos to get anywhere on YouTube! haha
Well ya, that new twitch terms was crazy! Every one just wants friendly cuddly time and nothing negative.
Haven't heard about the new Twitch terms, explain?
About a month or so ago they implimented their new terms that basically forced people to stop bullying in the comments and live. It also forced the streamer to be held responsible for what was being typed in the chat as well, and use of racial terms where a immediate ban.
While most of the terms are fine, and keeps the whole streaming world somewhat wholesome, it just put extra pressure on the streamers themselves to make sure people where behaving or they could be banned. It has all ready caused a few major streamers to be banned and kicked from twitch.
Ah interesting. I hadn't heard about that - looks like even Twitch could be going the way of YouTube then.
Its slowly getting there, at least twitch is paired with amazon prime and that gives you a free sub every month, which allows many to stay a float. However subbing to a streamer generally means they only get 50% of that $5.00 price.
I also have not heard about how ad placement and deals work yet, and that would be interesting to see how that is handled.
Your data is reaching at best, and seems like you are just looking for confirmation bias.
Youtube is not dying at all. Youtube's main platform has never been streaming services in the first place, so of course platforms that use live streaming as their main service are going to produce better numbers.
Also, never understand post where people get off on services "dying" just because their "big," instead of showing post about alt-services rising...
Oh that's right, because they aren't showing massive growth.
I'd argue that 282% growth and more than doubling last quarters numbers are massive. So, your point saying they aren't showing massive growth is wrong. However, saying that a service is dying was a choice on my end as a title like "YouTube is Dying" is much stronger in terms of reactions than a title like "Check out the livestreaming platform which grew 282% this quarter." People love negative stuff, so I give it!
. And while YouTube's main platform isn't streaming, many within the industry agree that live streaming is the future of video content. If YouTube isn't getting a win in that category they're future looks bleak.
Also, I don't want YouTube to die. Less competition is always bad, plus it's where the majority of my audience is located. If anything I'd hope for YouTube's future to be bright, but I fear they aren't doing well at the moment.
So you admit making a clickbait title that isn't relevant.
I never claimed that services that focus on streaming aren't growing, I was claiming Youtube isn't dying just because other streaming services are growing. You're comparing apples to oranges.
Like others have said, 1 QTR is not enough to base this on anyway. If you look at 2017 as a whole. Youtube had DOUBLE the growth % than twitch.
In reference to:
You said in your first comment:
I guess I assumed that to mean you thought those services weren't growing. But, W.E. Let's chuck that up to text being difficult to convey ideas sometimes.
regarding:
I wouldn't say the title is irrelevant. YouTube is hurting in a big way. Losing 30% of creators is a huge decline. If this repeats, YouTube will be the smallest platform for live content by the end of this year. Additionally, being 120% behind the industry average is a huge deal, even if it's just 1 Quarter. If bitcoin was down 30% while every other crypto grew an average of 90%, don't you think people would be pronouncing bitcoin dead?
Lastly, can you post a source for YouTube's 2017 year growth? I can't find anything that suggests double the growth twitch had.
No, I didn't.
https://blog.streamlabs.com/streamlabs-livestreaming-q4-report-tipping-reaches-100m-for-the-year-youtube-dominates-in-4bf450fae536
Well done .first time visiting your blog.
Thanks!
Thank you for sharing this it will help me decide where to focus my media attention.
So far Steemit seeme to be my preferred platform.
Yup, Steem is a great network for content right now, if you're looking at monetization as the standard. Views are still a bit low compared to other platforms, but that'll change overtime I suspect.
This is excellent analysis. I think monthly will be good.
Thanks! I was thinking that myself. :D
I guess demonetized, copyright abuse, views supression, etc contributed to this problem for youtube.
My theory as well!
Youtube turned to be evil. Probably the company is taken over from inside
I think there was certainly presuure from advertisers or perhaps board members which resulted in short sighted decisions. Not necessarily evil, just some poor decisions.
Rich info, @capnsostre! Thanks also for the helpful suggestions which can help creators out there know where to be.
No problem! Thanks for the follow and the comment. :D
Very interesting blog, thanks for the analysis.
thanks for the comment!
Top quality post! great work dude! down with youtube!
Haha, thanks man!
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Wow, you really dig on this. Salute to you dude. Maybe I will start streaming on dlive now.
Definitely do. Your missing out on a huge opportunity if you don't!
Lovely article my dear friend @capnsostre
Thanks!
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Done Resteem. Great insights! @capnsostre
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But most of your graphs are based on gaming! The other genres of content are still doing the best on youtube!
Gaming is one of the largest, and fastest growing categories of video creation and consumption. Additionally, it's one of the most monetized with an estimated $160M in tips alone per year. Additionally, we're getting to a point where eSports are quickly skyrocketing in popularity along with the money surrounding them.
If YouTube loses gaming, it won't matter how the rest of the content is doing.
you make a good point, hm. eSports is not even in its blooming phase yet. The next 10 years will be out of this world for gaming/eSports. With the shift from AR to VR, who knows what might happen. Large VR marketplaces. The first trillionaire will be made in the next decade or so :).
Could definitely be! eSports potential with VR is interesting too, could be a lot more interesting watching an eSports tournament where everyone is in VR than where everyone's sitting at a desk haha
exactly. something similar to ready player one if you've seen it !
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Great Article Boss
YouTube killed television.
So, to kill youtube you have to make something greater than Tv and youtube. It's probably not possible. Thanks for making this article.
BTW, after one year on youtube and with 2700 subscribers, i transefer fully to twitch and started everything from scratch. Twitch is just so much better for live streaming and earning money.
What do you think about Dlive? Is it gonna be the third dude in this livestreaming fight between yt ant twitch?
YouTube killed TV with pre-recorded content yes, but we are in the starting phases of live content killing pre-recorded content. In many peoples eyes (including industry leaders) live streaming is the next big thing for video consumption, so TV > YouTube > Live Streams.
Definitely agree with your comment regarding Twitch.
I think DLive is an interesting one. The potential for monetization and consistent earnings per stream is unlike any other platform, but there are a few challenges that must be overcome first. I think it's a must use platform for a streamer, but if we're being honest, platforms like Facebook, Twitch, and YouTube will beat it for engagement any day of the week.
This is great news. YouTube has been slowly dying since Google bought it. I realized this when I got censored, and in the end banned from YouTube. I had over a million subscribers.
That's so frustrating. So much work thrown away by their moderation team and bot.
It was extremely frustrating. Hopefully the blockchain will change all of that for us. I look forward to the future. Maybe it was a blessing.
Could you share a little more about your story big if you don't mind? I'm in a similar position to you at the moment with my channel and your experience would be very helpful.
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