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RE: Wikileaks & Assange - Hero or Dis-Info Agent? (Part 1)

in #wikileaks7 years ago

Hello @steemtruth,

Our discussion on Assange and disinfo was a great conversation and I look forward to more. I recommend that more people join the Truth channel linked in this post where @steemtruth is the moderator.

First, off this is very well researched and i appreciate very much your objective approach (as this is a contentious issue).

Let it be known that I do not subscribe to this theory but remain open minded to evidence that could prove otherwise. What has come out in our discussions is that we both are not dogmatic in our opinions and open to possibilities.

@steemtruth and I have discussed some points i take issue with and plans to address them in future posts in a series about Assange.

To be fair, I won't rehash them all here as i think our disagreement pertains to issues that will be addressed later in the series. However, I just want to make one point here and that is this:

If we dig deep enough into anyone's past we will find something undesirable or something to discredit them with. We're all human and we all have skeletons in our closets.

Of course, we know that Assange has had an intensive and sustained smear campaign mounted against him for years.

One thing we all agree on is that Wikileaks is a vital resource. They have released documents that no government has challenged or refuted as being inauthentic.

Enough for now.

Anyways, I applaud this research and i hope we continue to have a lively and respectful debate on the subject.

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Well said @v4vapid and thank you for your support even though you disagree with me. It takes a good person to do that and I respect you for it.

This is an example of how truth investigations should be conducted. There are too many truthers taking pot shots at each other.

One thing we all agree on is that Wikileaks is a vital resource. They have released documents that no government has challenged or refuted as being inauthentic.

I agree with you on that point.

Ooooo...I missed a great convo <3 @v4vapid You must've missed my original WL and JA post when I first appeared on this amazing platform :') <3 Otherwise we surely would have had this debate already :') <3

What has come out in our discussions is that we both are not dogmatic in our opinions and open to possibilities.

I love this. Being dogmatic and having a belief in something, is putting a cage around it and defends it even in the face of valid, new information.

This is why I love Steemit.

I would like to address one point here though @v4vapid---->

Of course, we know that Assange has had an intensive and sustained smear campaign mounted against him for years.

An interesting and valid question in response to this from my end, would be;
Why then, During this mass smearing campaign, Has his connection to 'The Family" never been mentioned on MSM?

I worked closely with JA and his crew during the Elections when the Wikileaks party ran for senate here, in Western Australia, as I was the Volunteer coordinator for the party for a majority of the campaign....
And Looking back now...It has always seemed strange to me that for such an explicitly transparent foundation [Wikileaks], the 'leader' of this foundation lacks any real sense of transparency in his life.....

Anyways, Food for thought <3

Love your work @SteemTruth <3

Hey @AncientMystique, I didn't know that you worked closely with Assange, that's quite interesting.

So, to your point about the MSM not smearing Assange with his connection to 'The Family' I can't speak for the MSM, but there could be a number of reasons.

  1. They (US gov.) calculated that the Swedish Rape accusations would be a more effective smear campaign
  2. They investigated and found nothing substantial aside from his mother's brief relationship as mentioned above.

I think we need more transparency in government and many of societies institutions. Wikileaks is all about keeping governments honest and accountable. We should have transparency from our government officials and all governmental affairs, but of course we don't. The free press is suppose to be the 4th estate of government but they are own and easily controlled with advertising dollars.

Do we need to know all of the personal details of everyone that works at Wikileaks?

Transparency in how they operate is perhaps more important than knowing (and scrutinizing) the personal lives of the Wikileaks staff.

I think there's a substantial amount of transparency from Wikileaks as they release raw (sometimes redacted) government documents.

Anyways, much respect AM let's keep an open dialogue and open mind on the topic

:) I am full of surprises.

So I think you are right in your guesses re: MSM and smearing JA with the family mess....
However that whole situation is also directly representative of MKultra programs run by the CIA in both Australia and the USA-And in fact when Anne was arrested, she was arrested on one of her numerous properties in the USA and it took the UK, Australia and the US to all work together to find her.....All 3 countries wrought with pedocriminilism.......Where did all of her money come from???

I totally agree with your point about valid information being released by WL's-However don't you think, looking back, that all of the info they have released has had very interesting timing politically?

I don't disagree with the fact they release good information....I question Intention though.....Intention is everything. And if we are being spooned information, I would very much like to know the answer as to why and who stands to gain.
I think transparency says something about a person. In fact, it says a lot about a person. Especially when they KNEW they were going to be in the public eye, doing this work.
I don't debate the transparency of Wikileaks, as a whole, although I must admit, I have come across some very interesting info suggesting that they are funded by some people that we might all have something to say about....
Mostly Mossad....

As for your last comment-I love learning and moving forward. New information is like music to a musicians ears, to me. I love asking questions and hopefully getting answers <3 I love this platform and I am so happy I can have these respectable debates and sharing of opinions here, without judgement or fear of retaliation. <3

SteemOn and BeBrave <3