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RE: Prophecy - It's Going To Happen 5-2-2018 Lois Vogel-Sharp

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There is nothing this woman says that doesn't align with the word of God.

I believe her prophecy is genuine.

It co-incides with a dream and statement a good friend of mind made yesterday w/o knowing about this video.

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Timothy 2:12

God doesn't allow her to teach anything, let alone proclaim prophecy, so your point is moot.

Sad that the context of Paul's letter is still misunderstood.

The setting is the church - and women were not to disrupt teachings.

Where in her testimony is the proclaiming authority over man?

@rampleflik

There are many who are false teachers.
Make sure context of any quoted verse is fully understood.

Know your bible:

Acts 2:17
And it shall come to pass in the last days, said God, I will pour out of my Spirit on all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

Does that MUTE you?

That's a matter of interpretation. Anyone can cherry-pick. You've only shown that the bible is rife with contradictions. You could've chosen the verse below, which again paints woman as lesser than man.

1 Corinthians 11:4-5 New International Version (NIV)
4 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head.
5 But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved.

You must admit the bible is silly.

It is not a matter if interpretation.
It is a matter of understanding historical and cultural context and research the verses in the original language. https://www.blueletterbible.org/ is a good starting point.

I happen to take the word of God serious - and I have positions, not opinions, based on the word of God.

The fact that someone thinks the bible is contradictory proves that that person has not studied, much less understood it.
I wish you well.

PS:// The NIV is a falsified rendering, a watered down version of the original word of God. I suggest to study the King James in conjuntion with original word studies.

Best of luck.

Thanks for the tip. I'll reference the King James in the future.

As to historical and cultural context, isn't it much more likely that the bible is used by men in order to impose on and control other men.

Also, I don't understand how you can say the bible isn't contradictory. Even the premise of an all knowing all powerful god creating (free-willed) man that was destined for failure is ludicrous. How could you explain that?

I do appreciate the discours by the way.

Only those who go against their Creator and His creation are destined to fail/fall. It is man's choice.
God is Spirit - and He is a gentleman. He doesn't force His will onto anyone, unlike human government that forces its oppressive will into its subjects/citizens. It's described well in Deuteronomy.

It is an interesting book to read, as it explains in detail what would happen should the Jews choose a human king over their Heavenly Father. The things described therein are spot on as to what humans endure under human rule.

Choices.

Those who are in Jesus are not destined for failure.

If there is a design, any design, and the thing is used outwith the purpose for which it was designed, it is likely to break/fail. This is what we see happening. Free will - we have a choice. I made mine. As an atheist of 49 years, I finally heard Jesus's call and gave my heart to Him. The one thing I have found is peace, knowledge and growing wisdom. Not mine, but God's, who promises all these things to those who turn to God and repent.

The story of Jesus is so outrageous, that it is indeed hard for an unbeliever to, well, believe. But let's analyze briefly:

If Jesus was a charlatan, He would have said: I shall live, but if I die, I shall rise again after three days, and my spirit will go to heaven.

That's not what Jesus said. He said, I will die, rise again and be physically with you. This is exactly what happend. The purpose of His death and resurrection was to pay with His blood for our sins, so that those may be forgiven who have Jesus in them.

Faith comes from hearing the word of God. Listen to it. Meditate. And see what may be revealed to you.

God created us. He is all knowing and all powerful. He knew before he made us and gave us free will that we would end up where we are today, supposedly with lucifer torturing for all eternity all the poor souls that believed or were born into the wrong religion or didn't have the opportunity to confess before their death. How is that our choice. It's his choice. He choose to create the world as it is today, including all the senseless suffering and misery. He could've negated all this by creating us differently, without free will, without an angel that would fall, without a tree of knowledge etc. etc. He didn't and thus forces his will on us.

The bible surely is interesting, true. But it remains a book written by people. People make stuff up, tell lies, twist things for their own agenda's. The Harry Potter books are interesting too, but that doesn't make those true either.

"Those who are in Jesus are not destined for failure." What does that even mean? It is gibberish.

Yes, using designed things for other things than what they were designed for might result in them breaking. That has nothing to do with god or the bible. I also don't buy that reality is designed. I find it far more likely it and everything in it emerged and evolved on its own. We see complexity form on very simple things everywhere without ever needing a designer.

What Jezus said isn't relevant. There is one source, one book, that is not credible evidence for Jezus or god.