Adventures in running a Steem based business

in #steemvoter7 years ago

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It's been a long time since I've written a post for my sadly neglected blog. That's not a sign of laziness mind you. Rather it's indicative of how much time I've been sinking into my new role as the co-owner of Steemvoter.



A lot of people think of web sites as turnkey businesses. Set it up, turn it on, sit back and let profits roll in. I assure you that's not how it really works, at least not unless you want to crash and burn in a short-lived blaze of questionable glory. As with anything in life worth doing, from writing a blog to having a successful career in a Fortune 500 company, running a service-oriented web site takes hard work and dedication.

That's especially true when the service you provide involves Steemit, which is still in beta and undergoing many changes that would have been difficult to predict even a few months ago. It's a constant challenge to keep Steemvoter up-to-date with advancements in the Steem network, making sure everything continues to run smoothly and ensuring we can scale up operations with a rapidly growing userbase. Some days it feels like I'm running around playing whack-a-mole instead of actually accomplishing anything useful. And that's not a complaint; it's merely the nature of the business.

How did you get involved with Steemvoter?

Steemvoter was originally created from the ground up by @marcgodard. At the time, I wanted to build my own voting bot but felt daunted by the steep learning curve involved. I felt the curation game was rigged, with an unfair advantage going to the tech savvy programmers who knew the arcane arts of bot coding. So when I learned of Steemvoter, a free service that essentially leveled the playing field by putting the power of a bot in the hands of everyone, not just the techie elites, I recognized its vast potential immediately.

I signed up right away, becoming one of Steemvoter's earliest users (user #24 to be exact). Even though I was still a minnow, I saw an immediate uptick in my curation rewards. And I loved being able to give more support to my favorite authors, since I didn't have nearly enough free time to manually read & vote on every good post that flowed through my feed. I came to rely on the service more and more, fine tuning & adding to my voting rules over time. Now I can't imagine living without it.

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This graph shows how my curation rewards starting increasing almost immediately after I signed up for Steemvoter on Sept. 19, 2016

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Here's a weekly graph showing my entire account history up to today. If this trend continues, my curation rewards will soon exceed my posting rewards (which have been flat since I haven't written a new post for a long time).

106,306 Steemians being tracked by the site:Thanks to Steemvoter, I am now listed #219 for curation rewards on https://steemwhales.com, out of

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Okay, we get it, Steemvoter has been quite beneficial for you. Can you get on with the story now?

Roger that, sorry for the digression.

Let's fast forward a bit to November 2016. Imagine my dismay when I read a post by @steemvoter, stating that Marc was looking to sell Steemvoter to the highest bidder or shut it down if no buyers stepped up. It was consuming too much of his time without enough of a financial return to justify spending that time. No way was I going to let such a valuable service die! So I put in an offer to buy the site, not knowing that @thecryptodrive was also doing the same.

I lost that initial bid when Marc decided to stay on, accepting @thecryptodrive as his partner & co-owner to reduce the burden of solo ownership. With the future of Steemvoter seemingly secured, I lost interest in pursuing ownership and went on my way.

Everything changed a few days after hard fork 17 went live around the end of March 2017. Steemvoter stopped working due to a bug introduced by the hard fork. One day passed, then two, then three. I started getting worried. And then, like a bolt out of the blue, I got a message from the @thecryptodrive when I was on the train heading home from work:

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I knew I couldn't hesitate. The matter demanded an immediate decision, and you guys all know how it turned out. After some discussion with Marc, I ended up buying out his 50% ownership share in Steemvoter and entered into my current partnership with @thecryptodrive. The rest, as they say, is history.

So how's it going so far?

Running Steemvoter is literally like having a second part-time job. After I come home from my day job I eat a quick dinner, spend some time with my family, and then jump on the computer to work on Steemvoter for a couple hours before bed. I'm most productive on the weekends, when I can often dedicate a whole afternoon to accomplishing some development objective.

I'm lucky to have an amazing and business savvy partner in @thecryptodrive. Together we make quite the dynamic duo. He is the idea man and handles the business end of Steemvoter, smoothly navigating the sometimes messy internal politics of Steemit that I mostly can't be bothered with. That frees me up to handle the technical side of things, like maintaining the web site & voting scripts, fixing bugs, and developing new features.

I'll admit, it's been rough at times. Especially for the first couple weeks, when I didn't understand any of the back-end code and was under a lot of pressure to get service restored quickly following the HF 17 breakdown. I had to feel my way around and figure things out as I went along, with only an occasional word from Marc to point me in the right direction. It was much like being tossed in the deep end of the pool for the first time and told to swim or drown.

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This is how I felt for the first few weeks of my tenure as the new co-owner.

But the learning curve has lessened over time, and I'm gradually becoming more comfortable in my new role. The one area I'm still not familiar with is the front-end user interface code for the Steemvoter web site itself. So tackling that final frontier will be what I hope to spend much of my summer on, gradually rolling out a series of improvements to make the web site easier for people to use.

What's your biggest challenge at the moment?

One thing we're really focused on right now is ensuring we can scale up our operations smoothly. Since the start of May we've seen a huge influx of new Steemvoter users. Just to give you an idea, when I started as co-owner we had on average one or two new sign ups per day. Yesterday alone we had 50.

That's great for business, but it comes at a cost. Our hardware is showing the strain as more and more system resources get consumed, with the voting scripts working ever harder to churn out votes according to a rapidly increasing number of user voting rules (over 40,000 total rules now!). This has unfortunately led to a lot of delayed votes and in some rare cases votes were skipped altogether.

Happily we've come up with a workable scaling strategy that involves adding more servers and splitting up our userbase roughly evenly among them. The idea is to have each server running voting scripts in parallel, resulting in faster throughput and hopefully better curation rewards for our users. I've spent a lot of late nights putting this plan into action, and I'm excited to report that last week the first 2 new voting servers came online, with more planned over time.

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Onward & upward baby! Hoo yeah!

So where do you see this going in the long term?

I haven't thought too far ahead yet. For now I'm mostly concentrating on just keeping Steemvoter running, fixing bugs & ensuring our infrastructure stays healthy. But I'd like to see the service expand with both more users and more innovative features in the months ahead.

Let's be clear about one thing: I'm not running Steemvoter out of the goodness of my heart, you know. It is a for-profit business, and purchasing my co-ownership was a strategic investment decision. Happily, what's good for our users is good for business, so my interests are aligned with those of the wider Steemit community. With Steemvoter we all win!

Ultimately, I would love to quit my day job and have the freedom to earn a living entirely from Steemvoter and my other investments. And the way business is booming lately, it's not inconceivable that Steemvoter could replace the bulk of my regular monthly salary by the end of the year. However, there are a few reasons to hesitate before throwing away my career in the finance industry. Any one of these things could bring the whole happy venture to an untimely and unexpectedly sudden end:

  1. Some big hard fork breaks our service completely and beyond repair.
  2. Steemit does away with curation rewards entirely and thus removes the incentive to use our service.
  3. Steem price crashes and the business becomes unprofitable.

The third possibility is what keeps me awake at night. Steem price has traditionally been so volatile that it's hard to predict what Steemvoter profits will be from month-to-month, and the nature of our business model makes for even more uncertainty. When you've got a family to feed and bills to pay, uncertainty in monthly income is anathema. What I crave above all else is stability and predictability, and Steemvoter can't provide that. Yet.

In Conclusion

Running Steemvoter is a lot of hard work. But it's the kind of work that feels more like play than work, which is the best kind! It's been a wild ride so far, and I expect that will continue. As an investment it's already worked out quite well, and is rapidly turning into an essential part of my efforts to one day free myself from the stifling shackles of my corporate overlords.

This is the first business I've ever had an ownership stake in, and I consider it both a privilege and a great responsibility to uphold. Thank you all for your trust in me. I hope I never let the community down.

For now it's sunny skies & full Steem ahead!


Links for more info

Original announcement of my promotion to co-owner of Steemvoter:
https://steemit.com/steemvoter/@steemvoter/introducing-steemvoter-s-new-co-owner

For a more detailed update about our infrastructure scaling plan, see the Steemvoter Week In Review for June 19 - 24:
https://steemit.com/steemvoter/@steemvoter/steemvoter-week-in-review-for-june-19-24

My review & introduction of Steemvoter for new users:
https://steemit.com/steemit/@cryptomancer/steem-voter-review-bringing-bot-power-to-the-masses

For more posts about cryptocurrency, finance, travels in Japan, and my journey to escape corporate slavery, please follow me: @cryptomancer

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Image credits: graphics in this post are a combination of screen shots from my desktop PC and clip art taken from Pixabay, which is used under Creative Commons CC0. The photo at the bottom of the post was taken with my iPhone. Steemvoter logo courtesy of the Steemvoter team.

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cryptomancer is a stud@cryptomancer, Thanks so much for everything you do here. I refer you to a post of mine from a couple of weeks back....

Nearly all the votes you see on that post were from the Minnow Support Project.

Thanks again.

Hah, oh man I'm sorry I missed your post! Thanks for that, here have a 100% super power upvote! I was happy to help you. I know how frustrating it is when stuff doesn't work the way it's supposed to, and I do strive to provide the best support for Steemvoter that I can. Your support is greatly appreciated!

Hey I've been trying to get in contact with you in reference to steemvoter. I have 13 steemit accounts locked on a steemvoter account that I forgot the username to. Can you deactivate the steemvoter account or provide me with a solution PLEASE :) ?

I know the password to the account, I know the security question/answer I just don't know the username. Please help!

I just checked. Your Steemvoter username is majorleaguemarc. If you are still having trouble getting into your account, try a password reset. If that doesn't work, I can help you with it but will need you to send me a private message on Steemit Chat and let me know the e-mail address you signed up with for identity verification purposes.

Also, when you log onto Steemvoter, make sure you are using that username to log on. It won't work if you try to use your e-mail address.

That is the new steem voter account; the Steemit account "majorleaguemarc" is connected to another account at the moment. I have two steemvoter accounts. The old one (which I forgot the username to) and the new one which is username: majorleaguemarc. If you need the email address I'll give it to you

Steemit chat isn't working for me for some reason. But I can give you the email address to Steemvoter account that I don't know the username to. If it's easy, you can just email the username to the email address it's linked to. Whatever info you need to verify, let me know - I can provide it. Thank you so much for your time, I've been stressing. This means a lot to me

steemit.chat is back online, so if you still want to talk about python bots please message me there. My username there is zcgolf16.

Thanks so much, bro! Have a great day

Thank you for this great service, which I've been using for a couple of months now. Your hard work is very much appreciated. I quickly decided that I would get the paid version as well. And I've seen my curation rewards increase as a result. I love the steady passive growth it provides for my balance of STEEM. And of course your posts get upvoted as one of my steemvoter rules. One suggestion if I may: An error message when adding a rule for an author which already exists in the current rule set.
Wish you quick success. Despite a good career, I too am working to reach that wonderful day when i can break free from my corporate overlords. Hope we both get there soon.

You're very welcome. Seeing people use and benefit from the service motivates me to keep going with it and makes all the hard work worthwhile. That's a good suggestion, thanks, we'll add that to our growing To Do list of enhancements. Good luck on your own journey to free yourself!

just trying to help out I saw you don’t have a Steemit Profile Picture I made a story post to make it simply to do. Here

Can definitely relate. Resteeming.

Thanks for your support and the resteem is much appreciated!

The ONLY reason I'm resteeming is the focus of this bot to level the playing field for the minnows. That doesn't make it a totally transparent and easy thing that any completely inexperienced user can simply use "like a cell phone"- but maybe it SHOULDN'T ever get to that point. Maybe it's a really good thing we have to actually think through our voting rules pretty carefully.

Thanks very much for the resteem! I do hope that many minnows are able to use & benefit from the service. You're right, it's not a one-click fire-and-forget type of tool, you do have to put some effort into learning how to use it effectively. But I think that's a good thing; auto voting should be something that's more of an art form than a science. And experimenting with your voting rules, tweaking them to see what works & what doesn't, is a great way to get familiar with some of the more nuanced aspects of how Steemit voting really works.

I just wanted to reach out and thank you for fulfilling my delegation through @minnowbooster

You're welcome! I do my best to fill as many requests as I can, luckily yours came along right when I had a bit of SP freed up for it.

This might be crazy and impossible, but wondering if you could "franchise" your operation. License the code to others who can operate it on their own server. Franchisee would possibly pay a fee up front to buy in, and and possibly a fixed or percent of profit fee ongoing. Just throwing that out there. Best wishes to you and all your business endeavors!

That's an interesting idea, but there are dangers in doing that. Steemvoter is still a business at the end of the day, and I don't really feel like giving away the recipe for the secret sauce, so to speak. Competition is healthy and all, but I'm not going out of my way to help it out!

In the real World, franchises have territories they are assigned, so the don't all compete in the same space. Not sure if there is any analogue to that online, so I see your point.

Then again, if you have an agreement to receive an ongoing percentage, if the franchisee manages to acquire tons of new business, you could possibly make more off the fee than your own instance of the service. Smart contracts could guarantee receiving your franchise fee automatically, I would imagine, although I'm not up enough on it yet to suggest the details. Maybe EOS will make that easier? Or is already possible on Etherium? Just more crazy ideas! :-)

You have a good point, such revenue streams could add up over time. Smart contracts could enforce payment of fees, that sort of thing is already supported by Ethereum (and will be possible on EOS too I imagine). But becoming a smart contract programmer is taking things to a whole new level that I'm not prepared to explore at the moment. Hmm, Steemvoter ICO anyone?

Actually, I'm keen to explore possible synergies with VIVA in the future. It would be awesome to integrate with the VIVA ecosystem and make Steemvoter a mint somehow.

EDIT: maybe that could work by having VIVA worker nodes running the voting scripts instead of the servers we have now! This could be worth looking into once team VIVA makes a mint kit available for devs to play with.

going to check out the newb article next / upv & followed

Glad you enjoyed the read and hope your find that information helpful.

I've been flirting with the idea of joining this for weeks now, but think I'm going to dip my toes into the water soon. Now that I am especially seeing the benifits of having your steem power do the work for you. And, so I don't have to scroll my feed forever to find my favorite authors to upvote.

Thanks for taking the risk and taking the plunge yourself! Sounds like you are having the right types of problems right now getting this to scale.

It's never too late to get started, and will only benefit you in the long run. I still like to manually curate as well, but I can only read 3-4 good posts per day, and there's a lot of quality content that goes flying by in my feed which I just don't have the time for. And that's where Steemvoter is great at helping out, so I can provide more support to all the great authors I've discovered during my time on Steemit.

I guess scaling problems are a happy sort of problem to have. Hopefully I'll be able to stay on top of things as we move forward from here. :-)

I love this post and am now following.

Thanks, I'm happy you enjoyed it!

Upvoted and followed. Great to see this platform spinning off new businesses! And it sounds like something that might help, I'm only on day 5 here right now and learned about #minnowsupport recently. Thanks for sharing!

@minnowsupport is a great initiative, we at Steemvoter are big supporters of that project! It is indeed wonderful to see so many tools & apps springing up around the Steem platform. There's so much out there to discover and learn about, which makes the Steemit journey quite an exciting one. Hope you will enjoy being a part of our community!

Thanks for the response! Resteemed as well. :)

Great post. Thank you for sharing the inside view! I'll be setting my account up with steemvoter (and the Viva Crown holders trail) later today! Thank you for this great service.

You're quite welcome! Have fun with Steemvoter and I hope it works out well for you.

The great thing about Steemit is everyday I check it I find new information that help us little minnows. Great info here. Now I just need to finish my 3rd cup of coffee and get to writing and commenting.

Steem on!

Thanks, I'm glad you found it useful. If you haven't already, you should check out @minnowsupport which is a major new initiative to help out minnows. It's great to see the community coming together to support our new users!

I been looking into @minnowsupport

But I'n having problems registering. Guess I need to read up some more!

Thank you for the hard work behind the scenes. Best wishes for this services to grow even more

My pleasure, and thanks for the well wishes!

Thank you for sharing this story with us. Steemvoter is a very useful tool and it was a great decision of you to participate in the project.

I would love to make tools for Steemit too, but I have no real programming skills so :p
Don't stop providing the Steemvoter service for us and steem on!

I'm glad you enjoyed reading this. It's been quite a learning experience for me; although I have a broad background in programming, I knew nothing about how to program for Steem when I first got involved with Steemvoter. There's been a lot of on the job training, so to speak!

If you want to start learning how to program, there are plenty of good tutorials only a Google search away. Python is a good language to start with for Steem in particular.

I love reading posts by service creators like yourself. Sometimes it is easy to forget the hard work and dedication that goes into something like SteemVoter, and it might seem thankless at times, but believe me, it is not!

Every single minnow from the #minnowsupportproject thanks you for this wonderful service you provide, enhance and maintain for us.

Many thanks @cryptomancer, SteemOn!

My pleasure, your support is appreciated! There are a lot of talented developers working on various Steem related tools, and I think it's fun to pull back the curtain every now and then to give the community a glimpse of what working on these projects is like. @minnowsupport is a project that Steemvoter is happy to support, they've been doing a lot of good for the community. Together we can help a lot of people achieve their goals!

Thanks for your efforts in making this community better @cryptomancer

You're welcome, we're all in this together and I do what I can!

cool. I'm gonna have to check out steemvoter now

Steemvoter is a great tool, on top of being very easy to use.

I also find nice the fact that you guys always listen to people and answer them, no matter is the question they may have (I definitely remember the period right above the one when the terms of service appeared, for instance, although I am not sure you were already on board at that time).

No, I wasn't involved yet at that time, I was just another Steemvoter user. I know there have been some bumpy times in the past and it hasn't always been smooth sailing. But as long as I'm co-owner, I intend to make sure we have plenty of community engagement and do our best to provide the highest level of user support possible. Without the goodwill of the community, Steemvoter wouldn't be what it is today.

And this is why the community is still supporting steemvoter a lot! You are doing well :)

I love the idea of Steemvoter! Steemit community is greatful for everything that you do to us! ;)

Thanks, it's quite gratifying and motivating to see how many people support Steemvoter!

Wow this is so exciting. Sounds amazing. You're an entrepreneur in a steem based business, and escaping the shackles of your overlords :) These are exactly the kind of opportunities that I'm seeing Steem help people to achieve all over the place, and I think it's very, very exciting!

So do I! Steemit has opened up so many new possibilities that simply didn't exist before. I like the sense of energy and potential that seems to pervade the platform. It's been an incredible journey for me personally so far, and I feel that it's really still just the beginning. Can't wait to see what the future brings!

That's wonderful! Me too!

Well this is the first time I've heard of Steemvoter, but congrats on your new ownership. I need to do my research into it, but you seem to know what you are talking about on steem.

Thanks for the well wishes. If you'd like to know more about Steemvoter, I give a comprehensive overview of it in this post: https://steemit.com/steemit/@cryptomancer/steem-voter-review-bringing-bot-power-to-the-masses

Thanks. Ill check that out.

you have a lot of courage to buy the steemvoter business and i found you from a steemvoter post -- i am now following and will read up about how to become a steemvoter member too - i can imagine life would be awesome if i could get a little more influence built up here --good on you for the opportunity you provide

Thanks for the kind words! Have fun with Steemvoter if you decide to give it a try. Good luck accomplishing all your goals!

It's nice to get an update on your adventures in Steemville. I'm curious to see a few pages of The Cryptomancer Curation Rule Book.

Heh, this post is probably the closest I have to such a thing: https://steemit.com/steemit/@cryptomancer/steem-voter-review-bringing-bot-power-to-the-masses

In general, I try to keep my voting power around 80%. I've tweaked my voting rules over time, and continuously refine them to keep voting power hovering around that ideal target. I have a healthy mix of authors that I support because I genuinely enjoy reading their content, and authors that are big moneymakers and hence provide high curation rewards. So I don't curate only to make money, if I wanted to do that I could probably optimize my rules a lot more.

One strategy I have is to check my history of curation reward payouts at the end of each week. I will scan the list to see which authors are consistently giving me the least payouts for that week, and add them to my "amber" list. Authors on my amber list get watched closely, and I will actively play with rule timings and try to improve the curation performance. If these authors don't show improvement over the course of a few weeks, then they get dropped from my rules. So it's kind of a survival of the fittest sort of thing. I give new authors a fair chance but won't support them forever if they don't live up to expectations.

I also try to do a fair bit of manual curating whenever I can, so make sure that the Steemvoter rules leave me with a bit leftover voting power to use on that.

I remember reading that post when you first wrote it. I tried to use the one post per day author rule as a good guideline to follow but in my attempts to support friends and people who have helped me along the way, that rule has fallen by the wayside.

I should probably keep a closer watch on my voting power, but I don't. I manually vote whenever something catches my eye and rely on Steemvoter to remove the constant pressure of feeling like I have to find material to vote on or catch the authors I like at just the right time. Signing up for Steemvoter has been a huge relief. I wish I had done it sooner.

I think that you are a bit as me :P I mean to do thing once a while and properly. Very nice post, I think that you could post more often shorter posts, but you prefer to post once a while something that will conclude a lot, its just matter of choise :) All the best wth a Steemvoter project :)

I do wish I had time to post more often, but I try to go for quality over quantity. You're not the first person to accuse me of being a bit verbose. ;-)

I used to post pretty regularly once a week, but with my Steemvoter duties keeping me busy I'll be lucky if I can manage once a month.

I see, you still found time to reply though, that is cool :) I like that you are busy with the activity that you enjoy :)

@cryptomancer, thanks very much about everything your information, I am very very happy to follow you, please support me in steemit ..... @ munawar1

Thanks for the vote of confidence and I'm glad you enjoyed reading about my experiences!

I really like the experience, because with experience we can grow for the better.

Hello, and thanks for the post.

At present I only have 3 rules. How do I go about getting more rules.

Thanks

A response would be helpful.

Michael

There are two ways:

  1. Get more Steem Power. The number of rules you can have goes up as your Steem Power goes up.

  2. Upgrade to premium service. Premium costs 3 SBD per month per Steemit account, and gives you a maximum of 500 voting rules.

Thanks.

How might I arrange the premium service?

Simply send payment for however many months you want to the @steemvoter account. Premium service will be activated 24-48 hours after payment is received.

I simply sent payment to steemvoter. I have noticed though that there is a memo next to other peoples saying 'for premium services' and things like that. But when I was transferring the sbd of I put my public memo in as it asked for a memo.

Have i been incredibly stupid?

Will they know what the 3 sbd is for?

Can the whole world now have access to my account ??

Wasn't simple

When you send Steem or SBD to someone, you can put whatever you want in the memo field. It's basically just a line of text for sending a note along with the money. For premium upgrades, the memo is optional, we don't really need it as we know what your payment is for. But lots of people choose to put a memo anyway for clarity.

You should never put any kind of key in the memo field. Luckily, you put a public key not the private one, so no harm done. In order for someone to gain access to your account they would need the private key.

Success is hard work indeed!
I didn't know you were the co owner of Steemvoter. Cool to find out. I think steemvoter is a great business model and will continue to increase in its success. I and other close steemit friends also use it and it saves us time and helps us increase our $steem.
Keep up the good work, wish you great success!

Thanks for the support, and I'm happy you're making good use of Steemvoter. The Steem blockchain has created so many fantastic opportunities for so many people, and it's quite thrilling to be able to explore the innovative new business models that are possible with it. It's an exciting time to be alive!

Yes it is indeed!
The blockchain technology is changing the world and its great to see you are at the cutting edge!
Making use of it to not only profit but provide valuable services to people!
Steemvoter does make steemit more streamlined and easy to run. Been using it for almost a year I think.
Keep up the great work.

Awesome @cryptomancer I went premium today, but still waiting to get it approved. Keep up the good work ;-)

Thanks you for what you are doing . Much respect

hi @cryptomancer, I want to rent your SP, do you give it?

Hey @cryptomancer, apologies for the unrelated comment, but I was not sure how else to contact you.

I am running a project called the Steemit Success Initiative, which is a project that aims to grow and develop Steemit as a platform. We plan to do this by creating online guides, curation trails, advertising Steemit, and we eventually plan to create a Blogger's Hub, which will be a place where host workshops/events and offer people who run Steemit based projects an office space.

In order to fund the project, I am currently looking for SP delegations, advice on How To grow, and any other help that can be offered. I did a post recently about whales on the platform, the unfair allocation of funds and more too, which may interest you!

Hey I've been trying to get in contact with you in reference to steemvoter. I have 13 steemit accounts locked on a steemvoter account that I forgot the username to. Can you deactivate the steemvoter account or provide me with a solution PLEASE :) ?

I know the password to the account, I know the security question/answer, I can reset my password thru my email, I just don't remember the username I used to create the account. Please help!

I would appreciate ANY solution you can provide. Please communicate with me. Thanks!

if it contributes to your favorite may have more visibility and at the same time you can earn more money, may be good

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Thank you for this post its very helpful

this.is wonderful tricks for us.very helpful post.from this reicks we can earn lot of rewards.

very intresting.... but not understand all about. im new here (sorry)

Love the motivation you have. Keep going!

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great post cryptomancer! keep it up! and thanks again for following!
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thanks for all you do I use steemvoter to vote on my favorite 3 accounts. I see it gives you the option to choose how long after the post you want to upvote I have heard different amounts of times gives you different percentage of curation rewards do you know the times? Like if I set it to vote after 5min vs after 20min do I get a different curation reward payout? @cryptomancer

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