Steem Value is Depreciated Because of YOU

in #steemit7 years ago (edited)

YOU THE ONE WHO...

  1. writes a post to get some upVotes...
  2. doesn't provide content with information that is in demand on search engine...
  3. publish pictures everyday just to gain the attention of the community
  4. doesn't care about how a successful blog works...
  5. doesn't care about how can people actually find a blog/website...
    how to make a blog more popular outside the Steemit Ecosystem.
  6. think we can continue to post Meme's and Post's about our trips all the life and see Steem Going up... forever

Quick Questions for the community.

How do you think Steem value can go up?

Posting Photos everyday about what you eat at lunch?!
Videos with no description copy pasted from youtube or even better.. copy pasted content from another website?!?!

Do you know that Posts with little or no text penalizes Steemit.com on Search Engine Results?

Why does Search Engine matters!?
Steem Value is related to how many new visitors Steem have per day/month. Search Engine listing is the n. 1 way to gain new visitors onboard.

More the new visitors.. better the chance some people with money will invest into Steem.

No new visitors.. no chance.

If we want Steem to do well we have all to take care of it!!
See spam, plagiarismo or articles with not sense around?! Post a comment and ask for article modification.
with @steemcleaners you can even be rewarded for spam catch.

Why are we still seing so much spam on the platform? It's our fault, community. We are not doing enough.
and let me be blunt. If we continue this way... the ship will sink

Just like any other software... Steemit can do well if the users care about it

Don't be shy!!


Take Responsibility


It's not too late.. still



reSteem

Michael Asumcinei

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I'm pretty sure its being drug down by Bitcoin's problems not just crap posts. Google doesn't just see Steemit as one big website. It can see that there is individual users. When you look at your address bar you can see that Steemit.com is highlighted and the rest is kind of grey or dull. Now I agree I have followed a couple people I regret following but unless they have some bored friends they will not be rewarded for their crap posts.

@joeyknowsbest is right. The ENTIRE cryptocurrency market is down. Bitcoin is the back bone of all of it all. Most people used bitcoin to buy the other cryptocurrencies. If Bitcoin has problems all other cryptocurrencies are going to suffer. Right now Bitcoin is about to go through a change.

-- so what makes Steem success is only the other cryptocurrencies market value? --

Steem is affected by bitcoin. I don't think steems success depends entirely on bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies. It is a young market so the altcoins are definitely affected by bitcoin.

correct - it is affected.

but is Bitcoin price the only factor? No. So What are the other factors?

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Steemit.com is doing quite well.

Do you know how many visitors is currently getting Steemit.com from Google?

about 100 000 month . the average website with the same number of articles is getting 1 million visitors per month

:-) it will do better when we all pay more attention on how much text we write on posts and how we write the titles of the pages

it will do even better when most of us will stop posting spam or duplicate content.

Exactly. Right now sadly the price of Steem is tied to the overall market. Steemit on the other hand is doing good despite the price of Steem going down. People have confidence in the future of the entire platform or they would just leave now. I don't think anyone is saying article quality is unimportant. Have a good day.

SteemIT is different and cannot be compared to any other cryptocurrency ... the Steem Value is not depreciating only because the market is down.

Steem is what it is.. a new kind of social and blogging platform... Steem value can be up even when the other cryptocurrencies are failing..

I wish it was as you say.

The address bar cannot be taken into consideration for Search Engine Optimization Analysis.
what matters is the domain.

Google sees steemit.com as an unique website

if you post some spammy article the penalization Google gives affects all the community.

That cannot be true because places like wix.com or wordpress.com are not penalized and they have a ton more crap sites on their domain. They have free websites attached to their domain with literally nothing on them and they are not damaged by it. Google's algorithm is very smart and can understand the separations between each username. Now don't get me wrong. Good posts and informative posts do benefit Steemit but not exactly in the way you think.

That cannot be true because places like wix.com or wordpress.com are not penalized and they have a ton more crap sites on their domain.

wix and wordpress are using subdomains.

steem doesn't. so, yes spam on 1 page penalizes how other pages are ranking on search engine results.

. Google's algorithm is very smart and can understand the separations between each username. Now don't get me wrong.

google algorithm is smart and could do it, but actually the domain is what matters. there is no distinction between username. do you have a spare Idea how much computing power they should use to achieve what you say!?

if you post something on your blog it gets high because of steemit.com
if you post some spam google penalizes all the domain not only your @joeyknowsbest folder

indeed. rofl

I pretty much concur to that. Still that's not a reason enough to quit steeming, right?

I am here to make this place better. is it not clear?

If what you say here is correct, and I'm a newbie just trying to figure all this out, then why don't people help out the newbies when they run across them with a tip or 2 to point them in the right direction? Aren't most of us all here for pretty much the same reason? Isn't it kind of like if one person succeeds then we all succeed - more or less? I know i'm learning what I can little by little. Just trying to understand how blockchain works and how you actually earn Steem$. I know there is a start here section and other sections to read all this. Which i will eventually get thru. Understanding it all is another story. Sometimes, a small tip from someone who understands all this is easier to follow.
I also agree with having quality content. I believe i that was one of the first things i read when i joined. Quality content also depends on what a person is interested in
Not everyone is going to be interested in the same content. For myself, i love seeing videos and pictures of people in other countries. Learning about their cultures and such. I'm not exactly interested in what a person ordered at a restaurant.
Many people have no clue as to what a blog is or even how to go about starting one.
We definitely need to work as one big team and support one another and help the newbies out when we can. This whole system is a bit overwhelming and quite challenging to learn when you don't have someone to kind of show you the ropes.
Anyhow, that's my 2 cents worth as an extremely green newbie.
This is an awesome opportunity for those who want to reach for the stars. Let's all get there together.

articles with good content are well ranked on google search engine listing. good ranking means new visitors which can one day invest in Steem currency..

now one of the current problems is that people is pushing posts with no content/text, memes, duplicated content or low quality text and this kind of articles switch ON the google penalization for the domain steemit.com - good quality articles ranking and chance to get new visitors with google is affected because of those posting spam and poor in text articles.

I'm with you @thorleyjo on the giving the newbies a tip or 2. I'm also a greenhorn in all of this, and as you said, I could look for all the links to help me through it, but with the time it would take and the output of effort for someone who doesn't know their way around these sites, it gets, well to say it like it is.....frustrating. And then sometimes there is the understanding what is said. Once again, frustrating. Just a hand up is all we ask, not a hand out.

Im new i am trying to put out good content and play buy the rules and have proper etiquette. It's tough the people plagiarizing I see all the time. I put @steemcleaners on one yesterday. Then the guy adds the link this morning and acts like it was there the whole time. It wasn't.

Unfortunately whenever there is money involved people will try and abuse it. Not everyone but some.

Hi Tim!! Good to see you are already an activist!!

if you post the links of the spammish articles on steemcleaners steemit.chat channel you will even get a reward in steem power :-)

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thank you guys!!

unfortunately the post reward, is still under 1$. but over 60 comments.

it looks like people cares about the subject :-)

Im not even sure how the rewards work. If people are reading and commenting and upvoting seems like that is how it should work. So a bit confused here.

What else make it goes up?

I have just mentioned the reasons for why it's going bad...

people just use it to make money and doesn't care about providing articles that are actually helpful for someone

there's is the misconception ... we have to be someone on SteemIt.. build a name here.. in order to make things go well and get some reward. But it's an illusion

Steem Value is related to how many new visitors Steem have per day/month.

More the new visitors.. better the chance some people with money will invest into Steem.

No new visitors.. no chance.

I couldn't agree more with the statement above! I mean cat is cute but :D at least have some stories behind it.

thank you for the nice comment... at least I can see I am not alone in this Jungle

You're definitely not alone! It amazed me how I actually found alike minded people but their post is often depreciated while sometimes cute cat win over them. I think We should keep spreading awareness about creating atleast a decent quality content.

Cheers, Have a good day!

If this is so, how come Facebook has made so much money with all the crap published there?

because they have an Advertising system on the platform. Facebook makes millions with paid ads.

Doesn't that give you an idea?

Steemit doesn't have an internal ads platform. what's you point?!

But it could have one, couldn't it? Also, there is plenty of great content on Steemit, yes there is a lot of crap, but I have found very informative articles, and I mean hundreds, so I guess there are probably tens of thousands of good articles on the platform.
Also I do believe somehow Bitcoin is bringing the price down it shouldn't because these blockchains are supposed to be decentralized, probably this is because you can only convert Steem to fiat by first converting it to Bitcoin. Also if your theory is correct, in March Steem was worth 7 cents and then exploded to over $2.50, do you think that during April and May people somehow decided to post good articles and that was the reason for the price increase?

technically yes, it could have one ads system.

I know there are some good articles and yes there are a lot people posting it. but what is the majority posting?!

but do you know what how most of the people can actually discover Steemit?

  • using search engine

The point is that search engine listing of all steemit good articles is affected by the spam ones, cause of the way the search engines works.

Ok, but explain the price spike in April and most of all in May.

What i think is, steemit needs to grow inside it self ( i see all of this as a test drive ) to prove that steemit is ready to handle millions of subscribers with out a glitch...... you can notice that it's like a child growing every day learning new word's & new roles .
Block chain is still relatively new we don't know the limits off it yet .
A simple fork like HF19 changed the behaviour of users they don't vote on comments any more they calculate it a lot it was not the case then .
So in a sense we don't know what works but it's the collected views and behaviour that drives us.
If you think there's the good & the bad in YouTube & Facebook ....... after all it does not mean that your words are wrong there perfectly write.

Steemit platform is a mix of technologies: old and new.

the point I would like to make with the article is that NEW visitors on the Steemit platform are important... some of these new people can be one of the next investors. or not?!

If so, if steemit have more new visitors it means more the investors, and Steem coin price going mantained or even going up.

Now, what are the ways to get new visitors?!

The ways to get new visitors are not anymore new stuff ... there are well know paths since 2003.

Most of one website visitors can come from Google searches.

Unfortunately Spam and Low Quality articles created everyday are affecting the search engine rankings of the helpful articles related to keywords that are in demand.

I see the point you are stressing . Yes you are right if the search engines see 's the site as single domain & act on it .

People who want to make money with Steem doesn't realize that the quality of the content posted is the most important part.. most of them are just posting funny things to get some upvote, but this kind of blogging doesn't produce any long term benefit.

It's just the limit of there capabilities & i am one of them . Hanging on hoping i will change .
Not everyone has experience & material but finding early about steemit you can't just watch .
Sorry for not resteeming , i think it reflects on me in some degree.

what means you are one of them?

I see your posts are meaningful, about facts and well redacted

(sorry for late comment but got a system error)

You don't know how much i love YouTube . I've got great stuff i watched over there i can do a lot of comments & thought s & share ....if i got loose i will bring it all down here .
Please check this post ... great but it's like invisible to people it's something I care about but i think they view it as plagiarism.
https://steemit.com/health/@topslim/5yferb-somtimes-you-have-to-get-knoked-down-lower-than-you-have-ever-been-to-stand-up-taller-than-you-ever-were

why are you posting this to me . I just got here. It said post an introduce your self

.. it's on my blog. If you follow my blog you can probably see the post.

I didn't sent anything to you in particular :-)

and I am sorry for the bad news... but yes, Steemit is not doing very well.

Mi pana ya lo sigo y vote espero que me siga y vote también suerte y éxitos

Thank you for upVote

the more we are to talk about the problems the better it goes.

Please reSteem

@whatsupz @nepalipahad @devender @kryptoknightk @tidnull @creedstonegate @proctologic @joshuaharris23 @jons0318 @topslim @theofilos13 @barrysamways @munawir91 @mamasetta @mikeoftulsa @abbeymelchizedek @rapdenny @johnclever @vishal09 @cocinecomounchef @khaleq @ubg @beartsant @vinylshopus

Hopefully we can have some edifying discussions.

Regards

Michael Asumcinei

The biggest contribution on steem and steem SD price drops are 1st Bitcoin drop 1990 2nd a lot of steem are and steem dollars was sold in the exchange.3rd few buyers of steem and steem dollars. 4th used for steem and steem dollars are not utilized properly to create more demand. Most steemit platform user are uninformed how to maximize their earning by the use of steem and steem dollars. 5th marketing and promotion of steemit are not active in other social media to create more user and demand for steem and steem dollars

How can people discover Steem and finally what is the reason they buy of Steem?!

How do they find Steem in first place?

Invite a friend from other social media to join steemit make noise get notice outside steemit community. More user more demand for steem and steem dollars. More steem and steem dollar you have more power more share in reward more future value more influence . We need to talk of future value. A lot of steemians think the no. Of steem and steem dollars is unlimited but the reality is there are only 3,493,564 SBD And 254,888,989 STEEM

I am sure many know of the problem. Guess there will always be teething problems when something expands so fast. But better to know the problem now than later. Just need everyone to know the real purpose of Steemit and not to view it primarily as a money spinning tool.

I am afraid most of Steemit members doesn't. I invite you to refresh the page and read the new comments :-)

At the moment I believe that all crypto-coins have a problem of low prices, not only happens with Steem and most of the fault ( at least now) is because of the Bitcoin price. Apart from the individual problems of each of course, like the Ethereum shItCOs and so on.
And about what is posted in Steemit ... always remember that Steemit is sold as a social network and is not specified that it is only for bloggers exactly ;)
And with applications such as Steepshot or Zappl, the Twitter version which is not yet implemented but is coming, this type of mini-content will become more common. Now, the idea would be to be able to separate it somehow. I think based on this, the Steemit team of developers is already working on something.

Thanks for your post, your post is very informational. I'm still new to steemit and I'm trying to figure out how to make good content.

Altough I'm not informed enough to how the search engines work, I did see the kinds of posts you are talking about, and it is indeed something that needs more attention than currently giving.
First and foremost, a post should be voted based on the quality of information provided within the post, and after that take into consideration everything else.
I can't do much to change how other people spend their time in here, but what I can do is to make sure that my own posts don't reseble that which I do not wish others do.
Thanks for the quality informations :D

Without crap posts, there can not be good ones! While some people (like myself) do not want to post about things such as bitcoin. While i dont post about my vacation, or a "meme" I do believe the stuff i wish to post could be useful to the community.

spam within some of the pages of the website domain penalizes the ranking in Google serp for all the other pages/posts

I am pretty much sure this is happening cause of segwit2x.
What alse am i sure about? I am 101% sure that this update is going to rocket the value of btc and the values of the most useful cryptocurrencies , including the STEEM altcoin.

Steemit is going to be #1 really soon...

And also as for the penalties i believe that they just flag it unindexed and the posts you are talking about will not get rewarded..nor be found again :P

spam within some of the pages of the website domain penalizes the ranking in Google serp for all the other pages/posts

I don't think posting nonsense will push the price down, as it does not damage success of any other social media. But I do agree that it does not help at all, same as just waiting for any high ranking posts appears on your feed page so you can upvote them to get curator rewards, the idea is to really read content and if you like it, you upvote it. Anyway, as there are posts not worth anything, there will be good posts with good opinions like this one to balance the equation.

why will not posting low quality content not push the price down ?! for what reasons?

I think we can agree that there are a lot of low quality posts in every social media. Instagram, Facebook, Snapshot, etc. all have lame posts and it has not stoped users from using it. As it will not stop growth of steemit. I think price stability has to do more with if people like using steemit and if the comunity grows. And I think it will. What we think is lame, other people might like it. But what I think is bad for the community is upvoting any content just to speculate if it will be a next hit without even reading it. Curation was ment to keep good quality content "hot" and to promote great posts.

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