When ya call a spade a spade...

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Seems @blocktrades doesn't like to be called out when he upvotes trash like @michelle.gent and rips people off on his so called "exchange".

here.  And here's another example of someone calling him out for ripping people off.  Have you been ripped off??  Share your story below!!It's true.  Just look at all of the comments @blocktrades is trying to suppress in this thread

Once again, calling a spade a spade.



Oh lord, this is hilarious guys.  @blocktrades thinks "my insanity might start to damage the value of steem".  It's not him ripping people off that damage steem.  Or his wife rewarding complete trash for the past 18 months.  It's me making a post calling him out.  Good try @blocktrades, good try.

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Apparently lots of legal systems around the world also seem to have this role, but they serve in different capacities. I think it is worthwhile putting this on the #bisteemit and #statistics radar and see if we can get some facts and figures on this one. I know that someone like @paulag and @eastmael or even @littleboy would probably be able to gather more information than I can gather on this, and perhaps after some careful consideration of the facts we can come to some reasonable resolution of this issue?

Awesome

@berniesanders: Sorry for posting this in your comments, but I think you need to take a look at this:

https://steemit.com/earthnation/@earthnation/earth-nation-coordinators-talkshow-12-3-2017

Thanks!

(also sorry @plushzilla for 'hijacking your comment' :P but I think Bernie should take a look at this)

I didn't think my comment was 'hijack worthy', but perhaps just a case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time :D
I will have a look at the post as well and see what this is all about...

LOL, I didn't mean to hijack :) Just needed @berniesanders' attention. The @earthnation is a known spammer/scammer (scroll down on their posts) and was placed on Bernie's blacklist recently and went down for a while. It seems they're resurfacing, which would be quite bad for Steem.

Appreciate the heads up, maybe you can find someone else to flag them. Good luck.

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I agree @plushzilla, someone needs to do a due diligence audit on this one

There's enough payout generated from this post to consider or warrant further investigation for sure. The problem with being able to look into this further is that I can't see a clear dispute between the parties concerned, so it is unlikely that any form of dispute resolution is going to help if neither side can put forward a clear argument that they are willing to back up with objective information and then let an independent party make a decision. But if they do want to resolve this I have proposed several dispute resolution processes previously and would welcome an opportunity to put it to the test.

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Hi @furkan007 - seems like you are new to steemit. It is good that you are writing about health related topics, I think many people would be interested. Can you please write a post with the tag #introduceyourself so that the community can find out more about you? This way you will attract followers that are interested in the topics that you are writing about :) If you need more help there will be people happy to give you some tips and advice as well.

Thank you

nicely done :)

I thought it was a joke.

downvoted for being off topic, and requesting follows.


-18? That's the lowest I have ever seen although I'm new here...
Seems unfair... fishy... manipulation...
Not good though this is not good... We need moderators to check for the flags... People are just using it as a weapon to use in case of a conflict here. You can't just flag someone without any reason.
We need to review this flag system... I'm putting forward this issue on minnowsupport panel in Dec 9.I don't know why @berniesanders has such a low reputation. Seems to be a okay guy for me but why are people flagging him and hurting his reputation without any reason?


PEOPLE take a look at the detais! Is sometimes odd to see a new comer have a great reputation right of the back, with little to no content... not to mention having an effortless growth in the community. I personally have had my highs and lows here. There's times where I dedicate a lot of planning on content gathering; just to get emotionally crushed by the payout. But that is life, and I'm ok with it. But lets not get crushed by the preferences some people have here with the advantages. Life is not fair but lets not be suckers either. Best wishes to all.
@berniesanders Yes...this is a bit strange. I think that we can all learn from another and also improve things, if they're not as effected or one sided! Lets all work for a better Steemit! I have also seen some strange moves that make the community pool swing one way. This is a place where we should be able to speak the truth and not be afraid of getting unfairly flagged.

nice but what does it means?

Work towards a better and happy Steemit .

Why am I not surprised that not only did I randomly get here, but the only comment that makes the most sense to me is yours Mr. @creatovert . I'm sitting here saying, I totally agree with this guy... only to see that it's you. I chuckled. I'm not sure how this started but isn't quality content up to the eye of the beholder? While I may not have a pod of whales hunting down my posts, I still consider my content bomb diggity dot com. So if someone ends up really enjoying what I create, but some other whale hates what I put out, will I be in the middle of a steemit war? Using flags, upvotes and whales as weapons? I can understand the salt behind self voting. Is this something that needs to be re-evaluated?

I guess it's really all about the self voting or auto voting that whales have set up. Is this the problem? So we have whales fighting whales, countering eachothers posts with whale votes? This just doesn't seem like proper steemit etiquette to me. I hope you guys resolve this peacefully and can learn to coexist. Take care

Yeah we have a 3rd World war going on here in Steemit... It's creating a bad image of the community! :(

I'm sure this is all a bad hump in the learning process of Steemit. Once things cleared up things will be as bright as a rainbow. At the end of the day, this is still a great place/ community to be part of. Why is @berniesanders reputation so low??

I agree. After all, whales never really sleep. Some say whales shut off half of their brain at a time so they can continue breathing (they are conscious breathers). This means they have plenty of time to sort things out

Really???!!!

The only way the reputation can go low is by getting flagged. And apparently, he's been flagged uncountable times I think... for no reason!

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I have no idea about the spat going on between @berniesanders and others in the community but it does sound like we need to get our collective heads together to work out a way so the flagging process can't get personal and vindictive. Does excessive flagging have an impact on reputation? I'm kind of new so genuinely don't know the answer.

Yes @oceanelement excessive flagging brings your reputation to zero!

I cant understand it too... hahaha.

@creatovert

It's my understanding that sometime in the past a flag war that would make the current goings on look like a minor 5th grade lunchroom food fight happened and @berniesanders was repeatedly flagged by a single user with a very high rep(70+) that had a ton of Steem Power.

It seems in its short existence Steemit already has a colorful history.

@randystiefer It's very hard to gain reputation here... and it takes a lot of time and effort... But too bad that one single user can bring down your reputation to zero with just a few flags. It might take an year to reach (70) but it can get to (-18) in a few days,,,Don't you think the algorithm is faulty?

You really have to tip toe around the whales here and that is kind of whack.

fuck that, something has to change.

i was attacked by a 50 when i was a 35 and dropped to 12, but was saved by a whale that brought me back... and saw him downvote that guy.

so it really does depend on us having good whales... what is our protection from the bad ones?

@viraldome @klevn This algorithm sucks really... It's very hard for us minnows you know. When you flag back a whale, it doesn't even count to anything!

I didn't even know it was possible to have a negative reputation!

When all else fails, we return to our elementary school ways. Fighting and flagging. Steem is not immune.

It wasn't too long ago that you were hated. Now it seems you are the most loved whale on Steemit. I think you can do more with this influence than involve yourself in this pettiness. Not trying to sound a cunt, but I do think you are in a unique position to make some much needed changes around here, because we have all been getting fucked for far too long, and until someone with some clout starts making some moves for us, we are all going to starve while the same select group of sycophants reap all the undeserved rewards that STEEM has to offer.


He's a "Justice of the Peace", a lot like a notary public.
He doesn't have a horse in this race, and he's been posting a lot recently on the topic of arbitration.
You guys might be really enjoying yourselves, but if you'd like an independent third party to carefully look at all the facts and both of your best arguments, then decide who needs to apologise; maybe take it to him so you can bury the hatchet in time for New Years.There's an Aussie here, @plushzilla.

I second this one, @plushzilla put your processes to the test.

Hey Bernie - I haven't been ripped off from Blocktrades (hopefully never do) but I did come across something that kinda pissed me off on their last post - I think this is the very definition of "reward pool rape", and honestly I don't know anyone else who is doing a dam thing about it...

reward pool rape.jpeg

Just over the last 7 days of BS comments there is 335.61 SBD - at today's price $3750.00 +/-

I wont go into the whole "I work my ass off ... and this...", you already know the story... So if you are so inclined to do anything about it - at least now you know... :) Thnx...


@blocktrade i know from the exchange and have noticed his votes on few minnow that i know for creating quality post. I never knew about him upvoting shit post until this came up.Hello, @berniesanders, i like the pesonality you have put up on this platform, saving the reward pool. How you go about it may not have sat well with many, but sometimes ways like this are needed.

Please i appeal to both @blocktrade and @berniesanders to please talk about the issues privately and compromise at some point. It is only hurting the platform, the reward pool, the minnows and both of you. I believe you both can come to a compromise.

You must be a real character in real life, just the way you express yourself.
I'm just sitting on a corner and eating popcorn about this entire drama :D

hopefully @blocktrades can change its policy or be ready with the consequences will be abandoned by its customers

Recently, when I transfered 53 SBD when it was trading about 2$, I noticed that blocktrades took a very high fee. I don't recall how high but it was around 3-5%. I have traded in shapeshift and their fee is generally much lower.

I have stopped using blocktrades. Now I use openledger. It is still not that good but better than blocktrades.

Blocktrades price are always high from the start, but he does say it on his site, even tho i stop using bt all together, i transfer steem to bittrex and sell it for btc, if i want to go the other way i buy steem on bittrex with btc and transfer into steemit, i avoid bt at all cost.

Thanks for the information. I am new to Steem and I was wondering what was the best way to purchase Steem. Since I already have a Bittrex account, I plan on following your advice

buy it from there and transfer it into steemit to power up without going into bt.

I've also stopped using blocktrades due to fees, I have started to use market.

Me too

truth it is.

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Blocktrades v.s Bernie ?
edit: nice edit for the graphic lol

The thing is, I don't rely on any income from this like he does. He can flag my posts and comments all fucking day and it doesn't matter to me.

It's not hard for me to put a post at the top of trending every single day to remind people about what a shithead he is.

100 % uv. for this. Flagging your comment is totally ridiculous.

Blocktrades fees were always outrageously high whenever I tried to get in out or out of STEEM.

It was a tipoff that all is not well with STEEM.

There are very few places where it even trades.

There is a reason STEEM is slowly sinking, dropped out of top 35 recently, and will be out of top 40 alt coins before XMas

And we have all the developers focused on SMTs?? Puuuhhhhleeease.

Before the developers are done with SMTs, I'm sure they'll move on to another Shiny project.

Squirrel!

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Steem on the rise today .... it will go much higher

In my Country We just go to other's person backyard and kick each other ass until things get solved! It's simpler.

It always good to say the truth and stand by the truth

Yah. Blocktrades price is very high rate.So, it's be problem for sell SBD.I think bittrex is good.So,next time i will transfer my SBD only bittrex and sell it btc.

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I think bittrex is good.So, i will transfer my SBD only bittrex and sell it btc.I have stopped using blocktrades.

Bittrex used to be really good, until they switched the rules overnight, and now require "verification" (meaning legal name, address, DOB, etc) if you want to withdraw anything. They still let you deposit without it, so they can keep your cryptos.

i have my funds locked up because of that

Bernie should be allowed to say what he wants, it's a democratic online project. It's not The Good Place. As everyone knows (spoiler alert), anywhere that is too good to be true, is always The Bad Place. I suggest we keep the mocking humour, the clashes, the two-fingered salute to 'good authority'. After all, that's what life is about. It's drama, a theatrical conflict of ideas and counter ideas. That is true democracy. Celebrate it. Defend your positions and love the drama of it all. No disrespect to anybody personally, as I don't know much about the debate, but everyone loves drama. That is good for us all.

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Stop downvote Our attendent event posting everyday in Kr tag. the attendant

You should stop the downvote seriese attack without any reason. @ngc @newsflash @nextgencrypto @ozchartart @berniesanders https://steemit.com/kr/@redbanana/11-27-steem

It was answered here : https://steemit.com/steemit/@redbanana/2drtkr-11-25-vote-and-get-steem-doller-for-all-steemit-user#@newsflash/re-redbanana-2drtkr-11-25-vote-and-get-steem-doller-for-all-steemit-user-20171128t221702214z

The reward pool is not to self-reward yourself monetarily.

You are running a vote for SBD operation. It may not be that big in terms of $ but it's not giving a good example of how the reward pool should be used.

I've transferred sbd and steem on multiple occasions to blocktrades and all of them disappeared mysteriously

good post..
Your post must be impoetant all steemit user

It is not clear how it is good for the steemit users.


nice sharing informationrespect for labour blocktrades like @michelle.gent

wow how funny ha ha ha so thanks @berniesanders

Really nice. The people are clapping.

Appreciate the heads up, maybe you can find someone else to flag them. Good luck. thanks for sharing

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I'm new here on Steemit, so new that I was literally in the middle of setting up my account when I ran across this post. As I'm reading the comments I realize that I may have walked into war zone. Don't worry I was never here, just imagine me tiptoeing backwards out the door. LOL

Thanks for blowing the whistle on @blocktrades i was hoping to go their route.

If we post something good steemit then there is a lot of hope in life
There are many valuable information in this post
Thanks to @Breisendenders for a post like this.

Is it possible but how?

Maaf ya saya lancang,oa siapa orang @blocktrades itu??

minnows like me and you guys chiming in need to stay the “f” out of this. @berniesanders and @blocktrades are veterans here and it would be wise to keep our opinions out of this. Yes we all have a stake in this community, but some people have put many more hours and energy into this platform. Whales deserve to air their grievances with the system and each other. Just wish it was a little less public.

If we are paying 80 % in fees to transfer Steem Dollars to Bitcoin we need to be able to discuss this. It is a Big Problem and needs to be fixed. If I send $60 to Blocktrades for Bitcoin I should not receive only $13.

sure you can discuss it. Nobody said you couldn’t. I think my comment was more based upon the myriad of issues going on, not necessarily and or strictly based on @blocktrades. BTW- there are exchanges and it’s a free market so shop around. Some banks have higher f/x fees then others. Shop around. That’s the beauty of competition.

Agreed. However, as Blocktrades is the Steemit Default when you click the "Sell" button within Steemit they need to display in Large Print... Please Note: we charge 60 % fees on Trades of $30 or less "

This is a Steemit Problem that needs to be fixed

Your content is full of educative value. I am new here can you give me some instructions for doing better here?

forget that. why would people 'need to stay out of it' when it concerns all of us?

one whale is trying to silence another, and the question is... are we going to allow it?

if anyone is unfairly silence, i say we silence the silencer. downvote blocktrade. this is insane, how can you see it any other way?

anyone trying to infringe on another... downvote... downvote.. downvote.

Blocktrades v.s Bernie ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hahah, better than pacquiao vs mayweather or mayweather vs mcgregor.

yes blocktrades rate is so high.

Are you new here in this steemit world? I need some instructions from you to be successful here.

new entries will get confused and become confused. i feel bringing someones's reputation is not good. when can this be passified? looking forward for a peace....

Thanks .I'm new .thanks for telling me .and thanks for Down vote

This seems like a never-ending saga. Perhaps it is time to calm the waters.

It all started with a BIG-BANG...ever since and continuing with a BANG-BANG till infinity! Worldwide phenomenon!

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Is there any other way to get steem success?

bernie seems your second link doesnt work - here is working one : https://steemit.com/steemit/@runicar/why-is-blocktrades-scamming-us

Yo @blocktrades, wondering why you don’t at least defend the reason you upvote @michelle.gent so much? She blowin’ ya for upvotes or what buddy? $20 for a handy, $50 for a BJ? If that’s the case I get it pal. Don’t go all silent though. . Makes you look like a little bitch. . . Also, I’m a retired trader, so I know a thing or two about scams, market manipulation, mark ups, excessive fees, etc. Probably not a good long term business model. People catch on, regardless if it’s in your fine print. Stop the bullshit jerk off.

My wife likes her posts and upvotes them, what's the complexity here? Lately I've had to upvote them more to counter bernies downvotes.

What "fine print" are you talking about? Our system warns users first thing and VERY CLEARLY what fees it charges. It actually annoys the hell out of me when someone ignores them, because then I have to refund their money when they don't send enough to pay the bitcoin fee. I don't profit by it, it goes right out of our wallet as fees. In summary: if you're an experienced trader, you should realize now you shouldn't trust everything you read, especially not from a blowhard like bernie.

Bernie makes a habit of making one line comments then upvoting them for $27 dollars each, all the while cloaking his actions under compensating himself for "saving the rewards pool". It's such utter horseshit, I'm amazed anyone falls for it. Well, I saved the reward pool quite a lot tonight, he should be proud of me :-)

No, I upvote my comments because I feel like it. Still better content than the trash your wife has been upvoting the past 18 months and a better use of stake than ripping people off like you are. "I don't profit by it" is SUCH A LOAD OF HORSESHIT NOBODY BELIEVES YOU.

Thanks for removing the rewards, I'll keep earning them back by buying votes on posts about your ridiculous voting and ripoff website!

Way to go..

I am a new beginner here in steemit. How can I become successful here.

Hello @blocktrade, you could help minnow and the platform more by reducing your fees and giving discounted SP lease for community accounts for curation. You spread your upvote and only a few(1%) benefits. But if you give out some discounted SP renting/delegation to curation (community) account you will be making much impact on the growth of the platform.
Just my thoughts and suggestions. Pls dont flag me....am just a minnow!!

I honestly don't know what exactly to say about this except that perhaps it is time you both come to a compromise or something. Based on what I can see you are two senior members, as far as time on steemit is concerned, so, please, a resolution if you two don't mind. That said. Isn't everyone free to do as they please with their votes? I am a newbie, explain this to me. @berniesanders

Yep, they are. And just like he's free to upvote trash, I'm free to flag the fuck out of it and make a post about it using all of the upvote bots to promote it!

Little dangrus but treu man you r i like it

Guess, you are the REAL CRITIC Here !
But wish, if all these energies and synergies ( yours & other whales!) put together to promote the REAL Talent on Steemit !& NOT JUST COUPLE of PPL ROYALE of Steemit.

go sir bernie!

I see where you are coming from after all. Having read some of these substandard posts, and seeing how much they have garnered, it is disappointing, especially when minnows like myself pour so much into the stuff we post and get very little for it.

Won't be that easy though...even manipulations are manipulated!
No reasons to believe the WORDS, till there are ACTIONS to prove to the Public. The One who has the most SteemPower will use it, the way he/she likes...well who thinks about the GENERAL PUBLIC, they gotta fill their coffers first ! Leftovers are for Charity!
Truth is always BITTER !

that's true,

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Thanks for you did with me @berniesanders

Nice post 👍 Thanks for sharing and and very useful information and good job ✌ @berniesanders

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