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RE: 'Islam is a Garbage Religion' —@lexiconical (Day 22)

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Strange, how one hate enables another—how they are like unconscious allies, darkly united in blocking out the Light.

That's too kind of you. Extremist groups support one another, because they are what keeps the other side going. They both target the moderates. Nothing like hate to fuel hate, which fuels hate.

And far too often, hate is its own goal. That is to say, of the haters. Hate is not a living thing. It's humans who are responsible. That's why I am very much against calling people who do things you find inhumane "inhuman" or "monstrous," because that way lies, "That's not us. We'd have never done so."

Spreading like lengthening shadows."

I liked that one.

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And far too often, hate is its own goal.

It's my belief that hate has another goal and is also the goal of more than just hate. Hate is the goal of the manipulator. People need to be manipulated to hate, and the goal of that hate is permission to destroy. The same people who manipulate us to hate are taking power over these countries and destroying the innocent lives of many. But what do they matter if we can be convinced to see them as the enemy.

Hate is the goal of the manipulator. People need to be manipulated to hate.

That's an interesting take, but I disagree, but perhaps not fully.

I think most people want the manipulation to be there, because then they have a "permission" to hate - "it wasn't me, it was the manipulator!" But people should take ownership of their decisions.

I actually think it goes even further than that. Most people want to be manipulated, in one way or another. Some people want to be manipulated by the hate-mongers, and some want to be judged by the love-mongers.
So what you judge people by is not whether they are manipulated or not, but what it is they choose to be manipulated by.

As for hate's goal? It's to make you feel closer to others, ironically. Some just find it easiest to feel closer to others by painting those they are unlike.

Thank you, for your understanding, Guy. But, I’m not being kind, it’s more a matter of pity. I do view hate as a form of soul corruption — Gibran said it’s a dead thing, which of you would be a tomb?

And, even at their very worst, I tend not to think of people as bad, or evil... but weak or sick.

They do not know better & would behave otherwise if they did. But, even the most apparently educated, cultured, or ‘spiritually’ refined do not examine their souls closely enough for what is ugly...

I say this because I believe that if we truly abide by the laws of Beauty -in thought, word and deed- we would not permit ourselves what is unbecoming 🙏🏼

I don't think of people as "evil," unless you think of evil as just on the spectrum of "bad," rather than the "inhuman/devilish" thing many paint it as, for the reasons said above.

Is it a weakness? I guess if you look at it as spiritual malaise, and one gives in to it, then probably yes. Though I think as someone with a long history of depression, that "weak" is a bad word as we do not always have a choice when sickness comes upon us. But "sick" is a good word, for the paradigm you hold.

And that begets the question, "If you knew it is evil, would you still do it?" And only psycopaths would answer yes. So now we get to the question of the source of knowledge and truth here. That whether it is a matter of disagreement, or of lack of knowledge.
The spiritual path, especially the deist side of it, is very clear on it.

I do not belong to that path. And yet I still hold you can tell what is "morally wrong." Always something to think of.

As for the "laws of beauty," that way lies many an atrocity, in those who think despicable things beautiful, or that an end-goal of beauty is worth despicable acts to reach it. Hm.

Hmm... If you agree that truth is beauty & vice versa, then it’s pretty clear what I’m saying & irrespective of your belief system, also what is morally right. 🙏🏼

compact greetings from Aceh, I am very salute of the poem that you Utarakan, really amazing you are very great in living the ark of life in response to the problem