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RE: First Week of Rewarding Comments

in #hive3 months ago

"...we haven't gotten there yet."

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Yes, we did. Flaggots chased them off the platform, including the 'influencers' like David Pakman that came here before Steem was Steamrolled. You were here then. You should remember. They were so outraged at being taxed by everyone for any reason - or no reason at all - as any business would be in the same circumstance, that everyone with any reach anywhere else on the internet left here with a bad taste in their mouth and spread the word like butter on bread.

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PS. That graph in the end of 2021 mainly represents @splinterlands players who we've now found out most weren't even aware they had a hive account or what hive was.

Which could have been leveraged with a bit of reason to create an influx of social media users to Hive, but wasn't. Instead the DHF funds a rally car and all manner of expenditures unrelated to social media to the tune of $M's.

Outrageous taxation policies have been deliberately used to prevent Hive growth so that the extant oligarchy that controls Hive governance by having the most votes (stake) kept that control. A growing platform would attract IRL stakes to whom Hive's entire market cap is lunch money, and that would threaten to steemroll the oligarchy that currently has a death grip on Hive governance.

Censorship is any suppression of speech, and it is blatantly obvious that DV taxation is extremely effective at discouraging speech. That's why it works to suppress spam, scams, and plagiarism - which cross-posting isn't - and why it has been the tool to prevent Hive from becoming an attractive investment to substantial off platform capital, so the control of Hive governance did not escape the grasp of extant oligarchs.

This is also why the DHF is being bled out, because it is a cash reserve vulture capitalists particularly target, as Bain Capital Partners and KKR have repeatedly demonstrated. Decentralizing governance by more broadly distributing Hive rewards would have enabled Hive growth while preventing the steemrolling Sun Yuchen used to captured Steem, but the oligarchy preferred to maintain their majority of stake and control of governance even at the cost of $.1 Hive.

A bird in hand...

Now the market of social media users, more desperate than ever for censorship resistance platforms, rightly sees Hive as less attractive than Fakebook, Twatter, or Youtool because those platforms are less censored. Every Hive user being able to tax any creator to the limit of their stake, with whales deliberately targeting influential accounts for spurious reasons - like the disapproval of cross-posting you refer to - belies the claim Hive is censorship resistant due to the blockchain permanence of content, because such persistence is economically useless when taxed to death with DV's.

The reek of rampant censorship is a taint Hive could dispel by ending unrestrained taxation, and Hive could leverage it's technical advantages and economic potential to reward creators and moon. It won't, because three dozen whales control the governance of Hive by possessing the majority of stake, at least not until the DHF is empty and diverted into their wallets. Once the corpse of Hive is wrung dry of ROI and cash reserves they'll move on, just like Bain Capital Partners or KKR do.

thanks for reminding me why I have you muted.

if all you do is crosspost which takes close to 0 effort by pakmans social manager you can't expect to get free rewards for years and years after showing no attempts to give something back to the ecosystem. it's happened with many similar influencers.

Go back to steemit and take pakman with you, no downvotes there and look at where the rewards are going if you wanna complain about centralisation of stake.

no downvotes there

you mean Blurt!

You rant about BS that has nothing to do with the issue you have been a primary cause of, through taxing creators beyond tolerability. Keep muting rational criticism - until the money runs out. Then you'll wonder how it all went to shit, because you're not listening to reason.

Maybe you'll get it when it's too late to do a damn thing about it, like many people do.

They cross-posted here for years with no attempt or intention to promote their existence even with the advantages it gave and still gives their following. Pakman was the only one who did a couple videos with Steemit regarding the platform but they weren't even shared on web2.

We need influencers who understand why promoting this place is good for them and their following longterm, not influencers who just cross-post their content for extra "free" rewards and never attempt to bring anyone here, I'd rather support non influencers putting in more effort here in that case.

They cross-posted here

Which is exactly how anyone anywhere found out about this platform.

Cross-posting is Hive's marketing department. Flagging them eradicated the market for Hive, and today we live the result. DV's are taxes, and suppress economic activity by the same mechanism taxes do. They are exactly the same as Trump's recent threat to John Deere to levy a 200% on their products sold in the US if they move manufacturing to Mexico.

If you don't support someone, don't upvote them. Taxation is theft.

How does them cross posting here, getting almost always 0 engagement while raking in thousands upon thousands of rewards while none of their web2 followers ever found out they were posting here help our platform? Can we not go over the same stories over and over again? If influencers don't do anything over time to promote the network in any way then what is the point of taxing the chain with free rewards towards them who already make a lot elsewhere.

"How does them cross posting..."

It's not really in your wheelhouse, this social media thingy, but that's how it happens.

You've demonstrated what your tax policies do to social media for seven years. Perhaps you should examine the results and rethink things.

I like to think Hive can be for everyone as long as they contribute somehow, if you find an influencer who after a while values Hive and what it can do for not only themselves but their following too and attempts to promote it in any way feel free to hit me up and I'll throw all of my voting power towards them. Until then, no I'm not going to let them forever get autovotes and leech the network for minimal effort, no SEO, etc. I'd rather those rewards go to people like you who clearly care about this place and are still active.

"...I'm not going to let them get autovotes and leech the network..."

They're not leeching the network. They're being rewarded by society for their content. Every vote you counter is someone else's curation, their subjective evaluation of content as worthy of their upvote, exactly what Hive promises to enable creators to achieve that cannot be achieved on Web2 platforms.

What business could survive in an environment in which anyone could tax that business to the limit of their financial power? Could Toyota produce Tundras if Ford could tax them 100% of the sales price of their trucks? It is this taxation free for all that has eliminated Hive's userbase, rudely ejected ~1M people that ventured the learning curve since 2016 to post on Hive and were subjected to taxation of every satoshi of rewards other users voted them.

Everyone on Hive has this same ability to tax any creator, and when herds of followers fund taxers like you, no creator can sustain economic viability. Their rewards are not your money. You are not a god of truth, determining what speech can and cannot be allowed. Don't like something I say? Don't upvote it. Like my passion for free speech? Vote it up. Disagree with me? Say so. Those are your just options regarding my, or anyone else's, content. Flags are for spam, scams, and plagiarism. Not having proper SEO, or not making pitches to their audience you want them to, isn't a just reason to tax them off the platform.

It's none of your business what other people upvote. Taxation is theft. Don't steal from others what they have earned from their peers. You are the ilk that has destroyed Hive by misusing tools necessary to prevent spam, scams, and plagiarism to discourage voices you don't want to hear by taxing their content until they go away. You're misusing tools necessary to handle criminals to punish content creators you don't like, or don't agree with, or for no other reason than you don't want them to prosper.

Stop destroying Hive.