Privex Hive Node-in-a-Box Experience

<h4>Hextech witness update <p dir="auto"><span>Alright so it's been a week since I rented this Hive virtual server for the <a href="/@hextech">@hextech node and I thought I should give an update. First and foremost it was not the best idea to get started on something like this on the first day of head-cold symptoms. I was thinking, "Meh what's the worst that could happen?" But then I proceeded to completely mess up the instance and nothing worked and I basically made zero progress over the course of multiple days and scatterbrained effort. Classic Linux and/or coding experience to be honest. I did learn a couple things along the way so I thought I'd share them here. <hr /> <h5>The first problem with Hive development is always the documentation. <p dir="auto">If I'm being honest I've always struggled with reading documentation even when that documentation is arguably done well. In the case of Hive the documentation is never well done. At least not in my experience. Information is scattered everywhere. Troubleshooting techniques are non-existent. If something doesn't work you basically have to ask someone who knows what they are doing or be competent enough to figure it out yourself (which is almost always going to be a suboptimal path no matter how good you are). <p dir="auto"><span>Luckily Hive seems to have a pretty helpful community when it comes to the technical side. Rishi has been helping me, which is super weird because his tutorial on how do this stuff literally cites the <a href="/@hextech">@hextech witness as the default example. I also have direct access to top 20 witnesses who are willing to answer questions. GTG has been pretty helpful, and themarkymark adds a little insight as well from time to time. I haven't asked yabapmatt any questions but I bet he could help me with something important if I pressed him on it, although he's a pretty busy dude. I also have a potential in with deathwing and ausbitbank. All in all pretty good resources to have. <h4>So what happened? <p dir="auto">Ah well so I sent Privex $50 worth of Hive after placing my order.<br /> Then I was sent an email on how to access the node remotely (SSH).<br /> Pretty painless experience.<br /> Then I log in.<br /> Simple. <p dir="auto"><img src="https://images.hive.blog/768x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23swcDKiuf9t8a29Z69SzCY72VipELToPq65sGTJBxxiXi3H6We9mvKaceLH3g8Tysrp8.png" alt="image.png" srcset="https://images.hive.blog/768x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23swcDKiuf9t8a29Z69SzCY72VipELToPq65sGTJBxxiXi3H6We9mvKaceLH3g8Tysrp8.png 1x, https://images.hive.blog/1536x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23swcDKiuf9t8a29Z69SzCY72VipELToPq65sGTJBxxiXi3H6We9mvKaceLH3g8Tysrp8.png 2x" /> <hr /> <p dir="auto">This is what I assume I would have seen on my first login if I had bothered to read such things. However before even purchasing the node I was directed to a few different tutorials that all pretty much have the same themes but are also notably different in certain aspects. <h4><span><a href="https://peakd.com/hive-139531/@rishi556/how-to-set-up-a-hive-witness-using-hiab-at-version-1-24-4" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener" title="This link will take you away from hive.blog" class="external_link">https://peakd.com/hive-139531/@rishi556/how-to-set-up-a-hive-witness-using-hiab-at-version-1-24-4 <p dir="auto">Rishi's tutorial <hr /> <h4><span><a href="https://peakd.com/hive-121566/@stayoutoftherz/wie-man-einen-hive-witness-node-aufsetzt-ein-tutorial-fur-computerlaien" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener" title="This link will take you away from hive.blog" class="external_link">https://peakd.com/hive-121566/@stayoutoftherz/wie-man-einen-hive-witness-node-aufsetzt-ein-tutorial-fur-computerlaien <p dir="auto">Stayoutoftherz tutorial <hr /> <h4><span><a href="https://peakd.com/hive-139531/@someguy123/how-to-set-up-a-hive-witness-or-seed-node-non-mira-upgrade-from-steem-docker-to-hive-docker" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener" title="This link will take you away from hive.blog" class="external_link">https://peakd.com/hive-139531/@someguy123/how-to-set-up-a-hive-witness-or-seed-node-non-mira-upgrade-from-steem-docker-to-hive-docker <p dir="auto">Someguy123's tutorial <hr /> <p dir="auto"><img src="https://images.hive.blog/768x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23zkiQD1K4HJ11emyzDGM9wrAZEXeXY1NdgYwQUZVMVLCLPo6XymparU7Vy7MK4z1JEoV.png" alt="image.png" srcset="https://images.hive.blog/768x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23zkiQD1K4HJ11emyzDGM9wrAZEXeXY1NdgYwQUZVMVLCLPo6XymparU7Vy7MK4z1JEoV.png 1x, https://images.hive.blog/1536x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23zkiQD1K4HJ11emyzDGM9wrAZEXeXY1NdgYwQUZVMVLCLPo6XymparU7Vy7MK4z1JEoV.png 2x" /> <h4>This is the main theme of all 3 tutorials: <ul> <li>Basically get the OS ready by updating everything and installing GIT. <li>Install someguy123's docker for modularity/dependencies. <li>Use ./run.sh commands to communicate with the node. <p dir="auto">Ultimately my problem was that my ADHD brain combined with being sick at the time prevented me from doing simple things like reading what the console was telling me. Aint nobody got time for that, amirite? Yeah so I just started typing in commands from the tutorial and hoped for the best. <h5>Didn't turn out so great for me in the end. <p dir="auto">Essentially I think the first six commands didn't really do anything. They took no time and the console messages I was getting were basically something along the lines of "nothing has changed". The current Hive-in-a-box (HIAB) installations seem to take care of a lot of this stuff for you, as I found out much later in this journey. <hr /> <h4>We're going to need a montage. <p dir="auto">Even Rocky had a montage. <hr /> <p dir="auto"><a href="https://openhive.chat/channel/general" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener" title="This link will take you away from hive.blog" class="external_link">openhive chatroom I didn't even know existed until now... I finally just decided I should simply nuke the node and start over.<span>Yep so basically after days of getting nowhere with scattered questions across Privex discord, <a href="/@l337m45732">@l337m45732 DMs, and this <p dir="auto"><img src="https://images.hive.blog/768x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23xpXuaz49ZshWFeiHEXFa5mjGaAjCMuJAsutUvzkQyZEn943eKYRwwcaEU19P3A8BN1X.png" alt="image.png" srcset="https://images.hive.blog/768x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23xpXuaz49ZshWFeiHEXFa5mjGaAjCMuJAsutUvzkQyZEn943eKYRwwcaEU19P3A8BN1X.png 1x, https://images.hive.blog/1536x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23xpXuaz49ZshWFeiHEXFa5mjGaAjCMuJAsutUvzkQyZEn943eKYRwwcaEU19P3A8BN1X.png 2x" /> <hr /> <p dir="auto">Luckily Privex gives you access to an account on their website now.<br /> I'm getting vibes that this might be a newish feature.<br /> But as you can see <code>Reinstall is right there, and it worked great.<br /> Kaboom. <h5>In retrospect I'm fairly certain I made two really big mistakes. <p dir="auto">The first one was issuing a <code>./run.sh install command even though all the things come pre-installed on the instance. I'm fairly certain I was issued some kind of warning in the console saying it would give me 30 seconds to change my mind, but I was distracted and by the time I actually read that warning it had already executed. Whoops! <p dir="auto"><img src="https://images.hive.blog/768x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23t732WXNP2peZgonHZY6NPktRZxcUEnqGSfmtdUPhLFwYdN4QcWxtnKJwUttkQA1mhDa.png" alt="image.png" srcset="https://images.hive.blog/768x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23t732WXNP2peZgonHZY6NPktRZxcUEnqGSfmtdUPhLFwYdN4QcWxtnKJwUttkQA1mhDa.png 1x, https://images.hive.blog/1536x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23t732WXNP2peZgonHZY6NPktRZxcUEnqGSfmtdUPhLFwYdN4QcWxtnKJwUttkQA1mhDa.png 2x" /> <h6>The second mistake I made was skipping past this little gem on login. <p dir="auto">I have very limited experience with Linux and am pretty accustomed to using <code>sudo commands which is short for "superuser do". However when you become root by just typing <code>su in the console it teleports you into a seemingly completely different environment. <p dir="auto">So I actually started the entire tutorial process over again from here. Ran all the commands all over again. Did another <code>./run.sh install >> got another potentially fatal error >> ignored it. Basically nothing worked. <p dir="auto"><img src="https://images.hive.blog/768x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23swi5hxpcb1z4979LmTLSsxQrbxHEP46daQtkzz7wMSMm3fzcghyD43ZaeLzmAn86bJg.png" alt="image.png" srcset="https://images.hive.blog/768x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23swi5hxpcb1z4979LmTLSsxQrbxHEP46daQtkzz7wMSMm3fzcghyD43ZaeLzmAn86bJg.png 1x, https://images.hive.blog/1536x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23swi5hxpcb1z4979LmTLSsxQrbxHEP46daQtkzz7wMSMm3fzcghyD43ZaeLzmAn86bJg.png 2x" /> <p dir="auto"><img src="https://images.hive.blog/768x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23t6zyWxzMRCw9ZruYqGmYgJmupvXFmYmikHnPaJK1edJQUrR4pqoDMgGEZdESnHPvcPM.png" alt="image.png" srcset="https://images.hive.blog/768x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23t6zyWxzMRCw9ZruYqGmYgJmupvXFmYmikHnPaJK1edJQUrR4pqoDMgGEZdESnHPvcPM.png 1x, https://images.hive.blog/1536x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23t6zyWxzMRCw9ZruYqGmYgJmupvXFmYmikHnPaJK1edJQUrR4pqoDMgGEZdESnHPvcPM.png 2x" /> <h4>I could not open the CLI wallet to create a witness signing key. <p dir="auto">Turns out I'm pretty sure I messed around with this part of the journey way way way longer than I should have. I wasn't actually sure if the witness signing key needed to be generated in a different way than normal keys. After all there are a handful of different frontends that can all generate a private key for you. Technically it is smarter to create this key within the node itself so that it is far less exposed to the outside world, but considering how many problems I was having just getting basic stuff done it really wants a priority. <p dir="auto">There's basically a very important config file that you open and plug in the name of your witness account and the associated private key. Later when you go to actually produce and sign blocks this needs to be setup properly, but for people like me who have absolutely no idea wtf is going on I'd have to say it's a much higher priority to simply get the node syncing/replaying because that part takes potentially days to get done. <p dir="auto"><img src="https://images.hive.blog/768x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23swibVfjuyejA1dSu95MZX3XqXac33sqfSivHFjumzrzYU1Ko3Dc8ScnvDdoQmQ2QdGv.png" alt="image.png" srcset="https://images.hive.blog/768x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23swibVfjuyejA1dSu95MZX3XqXac33sqfSivHFjumzrzYU1Ko3Dc8ScnvDdoQmQ2QdGv.png 1x, https://images.hive.blog/1536x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23swibVfjuyejA1dSu95MZX3XqXac33sqfSivHFjumzrzYU1Ko3Dc8ScnvDdoQmQ2QdGv.png 2x" /> <blockquote> <p dir="auto">Force open at your own risk. <blockquote> <p dir="auto">Probably database created by a different compiler <h4>Eek <p dir="auto">After troubleshooting various other problems (like putting a private key in quotations making it a string) This was essentially the error I got that convinced me to just nuke the entire thing. Not that it mattered at all as I had literally made zero real progress at this point. <p dir="auto"><img src="https://images.hive.blog/768x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23wgHhMSsUovfaFKZouAzEYHsNM3ZbNdJ2wxpsmsnSYe9KQiU6BAGNjmbhTqen7HByx1S.jpg" alt="nuke_peace.jpg" srcset="https://images.hive.blog/768x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23wgHhMSsUovfaFKZouAzEYHsNM3ZbNdJ2wxpsmsnSYe9KQiU6BAGNjmbhTqen7HByx1S.jpg 1x, https://images.hive.blog/1536x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23wgHhMSsUovfaFKZouAzEYHsNM3ZbNdJ2wxpsmsnSYe9KQiU6BAGNjmbhTqen7HByx1S.jpg 2x" /> <h4>After nuking the node and starting over. <p dir="auto">I was feeling better, a lot less ill, and I was actually willing to read the login screen.<br /> I decided that the obvious priority was to get the node syncing. <h5>So I typed: <pre><code>su ./run.sh start <h4>And that actually worked. <p dir="auto">I was honestly kind of shocked and annoyed; not only at myself but also the tutorials. If following a tutorial line by line leads to me irrevocably corrupting the install... is that really my fault? I mean I feel like not but what do I know? I was a bit delusional when this all started. <h4>And that's where I am right now. <p dir="auto">Just sitting here waiting for the node to sync. <p dir="auto">At this rate the node is syncing up 10k blocks every 25 minutes or something, and I calculated with some napkin math that it would take something like 11 days to catch up to the head block. Which is discouraging to say the least especially because this node was pre-seeded and already contained something like 73M blocks. So with the resources I've been allocated it takes the better part of 2 weeks to simply process 7M blocks which is less than 10% of the entire chain. <p dir="auto">The reason for this is because the Hive-in-a-box setups share a bunch of resources with each other. Definitely not an ideal scenario, and I've already been told by both Rishi and GTG personally that the option I've chosen is wholly inappropriate considering my rank on the witness list. Essentially my node isn't going to be reliable enough and will probably miss too many blocks so I'll likely have to start all over again on a better machine. Still I am somewhat interested in getting this setup actually working and sign a few blocks before I lay it back to rest. <p dir="auto"><img src="https://images.hive.blog/768x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23xKQL1yWtfGhGFFU7MPqsdjHqi8VUHgsL5kiGYWnJi64Vggc17uQkBsHdgj9HsyinFPf.png" alt="image.png" srcset="https://images.hive.blog/768x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23xKQL1yWtfGhGFFU7MPqsdjHqi8VUHgsL5kiGYWnJi64Vggc17uQkBsHdgj9HsyinFPf.png 1x, https://images.hive.blog/1536x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23xKQL1yWtfGhGFFU7MPqsdjHqi8VUHgsL5kiGYWnJi64Vggc17uQkBsHdgj9HsyinFPf.png 2x" /> <h4>Other tidbits of note. <p dir="auto">As my node syncs I'm seeing that gtg and ausbitbank are running code that allows users to post data to chain even if the account in question doesn't necessarily have enough resource credits. I find this to be of particular interest because this one time I was claiming multiple account tokens using peakd's frontend feature I was allowed to create one more account than I should have and my RC balance went negative. I always wondered if that had been some kind of bug, but it seems as though this is completely intentional behavior. It's an interesting display of how RCs actually work under less rigid architecture (softfork adjacent). As long as other witnesses do not rollback the chain these operations are totally legal. <p dir="auto"><img src="https://images.hive.blog/768x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23tGXzNSdH1YxecXvk83fJLS4QnoWgHqZMz1Gh5r4BY8JLMsMTxF31GJJL2yJ6RtT9GJ1.png" alt="image.png" srcset="https://images.hive.blog/768x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23tGXzNSdH1YxecXvk83fJLS4QnoWgHqZMz1Gh5r4BY8JLMsMTxF31GJJL2yJ6RtT9GJ1.png 1x, https://images.hive.blog/1536x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23tGXzNSdH1YxecXvk83fJLS4QnoWgHqZMz1Gh5r4BY8JLMsMTxF31GJJL2yJ6RtT9GJ1.png 2x" /> <p dir="auto"><img src="https://images.hive.blog/768x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23uFweC5LqHN3pV8duakzK9UWbYs1ru82CtoeuQRm2zMJ3EeYS6yFoCLbcayCty78JS6s.png" alt="image.png" srcset="https://images.hive.blog/768x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23uFweC5LqHN3pV8duakzK9UWbYs1ru82CtoeuQRm2zMJ3EeYS6yFoCLbcayCty78JS6s.png 1x, https://images.hive.blog/1536x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23uFweC5LqHN3pV8duakzK9UWbYs1ru82CtoeuQRm2zMJ3EeYS6yFoCLbcayCty78JS6s.png 2x" /> <p dir="auto">I'm also very annoyed at myself because I'm paying $50 a month for this virtual Hive-in-a-box setup when this dedicated server from Privex is only $70 per month. Something like this would be a huge upgrade from where I am now, and after being told that the HIAB setup is more for newbies to learn the ropes and not appropriate for the level I find myself... ah well that's kind of annoying. <p dir="auto">I've also been hearing on the grapevine that tech is going to be extremely cheap during Cyber Monday into Christmas due to overproduction and overstock that stemmed from the economy looking like it was going to bounce back a while ago. I checked myself the other day and saw 1 TB NVMe drives for insane prices like $50, which is pretty crazy. <p dir="auto">At this point I'm pretty tempted to build my own rig and tinker around with it. I have a keen interest these days in Hive nodes, BTC nodes, and potentially even CPU mining Monero. However again I'm told that running a Hive node from home is inappropriate for potential security and internet connectivity issue. In fact just the other day my Internet crapped out and I was like, "Oh yeah this is why you can't run an important server from home." <h4>Next steps: <p dir="auto">From what I can tell after the node syncs up to the current block it's ready to create blocks and sign them to the chain. In order for that to happen the config file needs to know which account it is running and a private key for signing blocks. The first time I opened the config file I had a hard time seeing them because they are commented out with a '#'. <p dir="auto"><img src="https://images.hive.blog/768x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23tv4MgwrFhh5AksZUUDcy8ekvCupTQ9MgHdGkFA1GJTnUpY4ErJfKj74qTSU6CE61DP7.png" alt="image.png" srcset="https://images.hive.blog/768x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23tv4MgwrFhh5AksZUUDcy8ekvCupTQ9MgHdGkFA1GJTnUpY4ErJfKj74qTSU6CE61DP7.png 1x, https://images.hive.blog/1536x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23tv4MgwrFhh5AksZUUDcy8ekvCupTQ9MgHdGkFA1GJTnUpY4ErJfKj74qTSU6CE61DP7.png 2x" /> <h6>Of course this is clearly documented in all the tutorials so chalk it up to brain fog. <p dir="auto">Then in order for the witness node to actually turn on the public key to this private key has to be broadcasted to Hive. This transaction requires active key authority of the account. <p dir="auto"><img src="https://images.hive.blog/768x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/Eo8L41sVCozqHJ3uN3NDjfZxCChTisejk8NWTsUDnGsrPcLTcAsJbzhNqMqeS3nEUHY.png" alt="image.png" srcset="https://images.hive.blog/768x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/Eo8L41sVCozqHJ3uN3NDjfZxCChTisejk8NWTsUDnGsrPcLTcAsJbzhNqMqeS3nEUHY.png 1x, https://images.hive.blog/1536x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/Eo8L41sVCozqHJ3uN3NDjfZxCChTisejk8NWTsUDnGsrPcLTcAsJbzhNqMqeS3nEUHY.png 2x" /> <h4><span><a href="https://hive.ausbit.dev/witness" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener" title="This link will take you away from hive.blog" class="external_link">https://hive.ausbit.dev/witness <p dir="auto">It appears this can be done on multiple frontends, including peakd inside the witness tab. <p dir="auto"><img src="https://images.hive.blog/768x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23tGXrZCuPtorafQALTM9bRwUMDPCqQiGis9tGxfnw9bepkWEQVmmZnfSvJkuVatTBdEM.png" alt="image.png" srcset="https://images.hive.blog/768x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23tGXrZCuPtorafQALTM9bRwUMDPCqQiGis9tGxfnw9bepkWEQVmmZnfSvJkuVatTBdEM.png 1x, https://images.hive.blog/1536x0/https://files.peakd.com/file/peakd-hive/edicted/23tGXrZCuPtorafQALTM9bRwUMDPCqQiGis9tGxfnw9bepkWEQVmmZnfSvJkuVatTBdEM.png 2x" /> <hr /> <p dir="auto">Essentially the 'STM111111111111...' signing key signals to the network that the node is disabled and should not be considered for block production. I basically need to broadcast the pubkey there to signal I'm ready to turn it back on. Although I have already attempted this a couple times and Hive Keychain throws an assertion error and refuses to cooperate. <p dir="auto">Guess I'll have to figure that out along with what the account_subsidy_budget and account_subsidy_decay are. The only subsidy I can think of for Hive accounts are resource credits for accounts that have very low or zero HP, so maybe that's what it is. <p dir="auto">The price feed is very important as well and is a completely separate topic.<br /><br /> I was told this one works pretty well but I'll have to look into it.<span> <a href="https://github.com/someguy123/hivefeed-js" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener" title="This link will take you away from hive.blog" class="external_link">https://github.com/someguy123/hivefeed-js <p dir="auto">There are also other issues to consider like backup nodes,<br /> but for now I'm just trying to get my witness back online and signing blocks. <h4>Conclusion <p dir="auto">Well this has been quite the adventure. I've learned a bit about running a witness node on Hive, and it doesn't seem too difficult. The problem is that hitting little snags along the way can end up being a huge setback, especially in the beginning when everything looks like a foreign language. <p dir="auto">Still I plan on grinding on. I definitely like the idea of owning my own hardware and not centralizing my presence to Privex (even though that would be easier). However I also need to think about just biting the bullet and booting up one of these dedicated servers until I truly know what I'm doing. No matter what happens, it's been nice to jump back into the technical side of things and it's exciting to know I have enough momentum to keep it going. Cheers!