@greetersguild, I feel for you, it's difficult to fix the problem if your energy and time are being drained by tending to comments that are repeating the same arguments.

I am not associated with either group; I understand the facts in the overstated list of grievances. Some things may be fixed, but broken ties are sometimes a blessing in disguise, a gift instead of a curse.

I doubt that either group will suffer significantly, this exchange of words has been a great teaching piece for me, and probably many others. Your transparency is appreciated.