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RE: DTube - Las Vegas Shooting And The Cold Hard Truth About Gun Control

in #dtube7 years ago (edited)

Interesting debate ... I understand the US. second amendment and respect it, on the other hand the numbers are very hard to ignore. The USA has many of the cities in the world with greater numbers of violent crimes with guns, year after year. I think that owning guns sounds nice but creates a more defensive, less free society, grounded in fear. Living in fear is a bad atmosphere, and people snap once in a while. At the same time the business is great for many companies. You are free to own guns but the concequences create pain and fear in the society. Just a thought

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What numbers are hard to ignore? There are millions of guns in the USA, and 99.999% of them didn't murder anyone yesterday. Sure, we have a lot of suicides with guns, but that's because a gun makes it easy to kill yourself. I hope those people get help and decide life is worth it, but it is their choice to end their own life though.

A lot of people die in the USA from knife, bat, and other weapons too. Guns are not the only way people here murder each other. If you took all those things away, there would still be predators and still be murderers. We cannot expect predators to follow gun laws either. Why would a soon to be murderer care about a gun law? They won't.

We will never disarm here. I hate to break it to the rest of the world, but it will never happen. There would be a bloody revolution again if the government tried to disarm the people. That is, after all, how the first American Revolution started. The British moved to disarm the militias, as in the whole body people people per Section 13 of Virginia's Declaration of Rights:

That a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.

The people of Europe have recent examples also as to why it is more dangerous to disarm. Did strict gun laws stop terrorists from using guns to slaughter people in France? Do gun laws stop grenades from being used in Sweden? History proves to us, over and over, that the people should remain armed. That is the best defense of individual liberty.

Governments want us disarmed to better control us, and being disarmed keeps people in fear. It is the opposite of what you wrote. Without the means to defend your own life, you have to defend on others to do it. They won't however. Worse, government is the number one murderer of innocent people. Look up democide.

Between government and criminals, the people would be wise to maintain the ability to defend themselves as a last resort.

I think the culture of America is more responsible for gun violence than the greater number of gun owners. IMO it's like the argument that if you own a gun you are X% more likely to get shot with it. That mostly goes for gun owners that are not properly trained and/or do not take the responsibility of ownership seriously enough. Sure, some un-preventable accidents happen but by majority they were probably preventable.

Also, I have a feeling that there are just more REGISTERED gun owners in America than in a lot of other countries, but that is just my flash intuition. It could possibly be an error of statistical analysis that Americans own more guns and are more violent. Can you link to the stats that you mentioned or list the search query that you used, by chance?

Or maybe it is the cold hard fact that a gun free zone = easy target, or that taking way guns increases gun crimes, or maybe it is the, taking protection away from people increases their reason to fear.