All I'm asking for is proof. Are you personally offended that I don't simply believe you?
You told me you used science to come to your beliefs.
What was the process? Where is the proof?
Science relies on observation, then hypothesis, and then you must test that hypothesis with an experiment, and then use the results of all that to create an explanation.
Have you done this?
No no, I am not offended at all.
And that's not what I meant by science made me more spiritual. Not by experiments to prove spirituality, but by observing the wonders of human body and cells that cannot be understood completely by science.
Anyway. Gotta go do some real scientific experiments ;)
I would prefer experiments to prove spirituality.
No one does this, and I wonder why not. If such things were proven, the world would change.
It is extremely hard to prove spirituality with experimentation because spirituality is not a physical entity. Until this date, science is not capable of completely understanding how human use reasoning, makes logical decisions, relate and perceive things or feel emotions. Because everything that is related to mind function (which is different than just chemical and electrical signals in the brain) is not physical or tangible. If something doesn't have physical form, it is hard to do scientific experimentation on it.
I can take a cohort of people and experiment on them, but the results will be ranging wide and far depending on how each individual thinks, what they believe or not believe and how they perceive things. Some they may claim they saw God, but how I can prove them?
Prophets supposedly showed people "Miracles" as proof long ago, didn't they? But still not all people believed them. Even though science was not around then.
The only experimentation you can do is within yourself. I experiment with myself and the universe all the time. But I can't just go and kill myself to prove that there is reincarnation or hell or heaven, neither you will believe me even if I did say that I have seen them with my own eyes.My dear friend @heretickitten
Thanks for the interesting discussion though! I was very happy to talk about my newfound spiritual feelings, even if they were not convincing to you. And thank you for your patience and questions :)
You're welcome.
I don't wish to oppose anyone, or offend them, but as a scientific philosopher, my new desire is to "Prove Philosophy with Science," a thing, as you said, is normally not possible.
But I want to try. I must try.
Oh yes. Please try. I will try too. I don't mean that you should give up. I just said what is possible to do nowadays. That doesn't mean it's going to be impossible tomorrow ;)
Let me know. I like such discussions :)
Re-incarnation is a fact, many re-incarnate into the pit for the unconscious and ungrateful endlessly while being a tv show for everyone else who left to go do something better. Occasionally someone comes back again and tries to save the lost like @theleapingkoala and buddah and such like
What about previous life memories. Nothing more needing said. Though, The ancient cultures were actually practicing re-incarnation, they werent birthing they were landing. The Egyptians, Tibetens, Chinese, Indians. Infact many wise souls choose to incarnate here again instead of leave. Its not that bad a space.