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RE: Hive Post Deleted - I No Longer Support This Blockchain

in #anarchy7 years ago

Most anarchists have no issue with using force and many in fact encourage smashing the machine and so on.

I would disagree, not many are willing to jump the shark.
@kennyskitchen can probably discuss this with more authority than I can, he makes the big meetings.

many in fact encourage smashing the machine and so on.

Propaganda by the deed is a personal choice to stop taking our lives not mattering anymore, it is a reaction to being oppressed, ergo, self defense.
Targeting can be an issue.

Would you mind working for someone without owning the means of production or the fruit of your labour?

You mean what we got today?

it doesn't really matter who owns what as long as the work gets done and the needs get met?

Clearly the needs are not being met, while providing opulence for some.
This is the issue.

As for owning stuff, I have said that you get to keep your stuff.
I'm not proposing we do what they did 100 years ago.
Wallyworld didn't exist.
Worldwide distribution systems were family owned, and not corporate.
Today, with the corporate structure in place, the top is needed even less than then.

When you go to work, do you check to see if the boss collected his millions?
Does the shelf stocker at the warehouse?
Or the crane operator at the mine?

As long as the workers continue to work, the top management can fall off a cliff and the workers wouldn't likely know.
They would cheer if they knew everything was now free for the asking, just order one from the web.
But the top, and their propaganda/mind control machine, is not letting that secret get much traction.
Ergo, the ridicule, derision, and scoffing at the mere thought of such a thing.

Please don't fall into the illusion that only through banking apps can the world's resources be managed.

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Most traditional Anarchists have said that I can keep my stuff. Most of them just don't want me own private property, as in land. Nor do they want me to own my own labour, because I'm meant to not get too rich compared to the poor.

Well, not everybody calling themselves anarchists understand the economic realities of it.

Of course you can keep your stuff, the fruits of your labors(though i think you might want to trade them for other stuff), and you can be as 'rich' as you want.

Me, personally, i want a corvette and a neon sign shoppe.
Other than that, supper and a bed is good enough.

In an anarchic world stuff will be valued more appropriately with family time, leisure, and just plain living that we miss out on today in our two earner world.

Here is one fella's view of it.

Here is another.

And a 3rd and 4th

I would venture that most people who call themselves anarchists are not very well versed in economics at all.

Me, personally, I want a fairly large area of land where nobody else is allowed without my explicit permission and invitation.

I think most of us want little more than that.
Maybe the kids, but certainly the mature just want to be free to do as they please.

There isn't a single country without private property where people can do as they please. In fact, the lack of private property tends to go along with being forced to stay put and provide your labour at gunpoint.

Rule by force is the disease, who and how are symptoms.

I think in the absence of being able to point guns at folks and tell them what to do, crapitalism goes away.
What I offer is a much better deal.
It isn't a new idea.
Here is a version from 1887.