But that is kind of my point- if the game is indeed over funded then perhaps a demo using those AA edited unity assets would solve some of the problems psyberx has been facing. Mainly that there has been a history of hype and funding attempts both prior to HIVE and since the project has come here- that hasn't resulted in a convincing demonstration of the ability to actually produce the intended game.
I think the game is the important thing here- not bridges and other additional developments.
We need to see multiplayer gameplay, NFT's being loaded into the game, usage of LVL in game... all of the basics that will enable this to actually be a multiplayer pvp p2e battle arena mmorpg with land etc. We need to see these things first.
The money to fund the bridges might well end up feeding back to developers from within the hive ecosystem and that is fantastic- but bridges to other ecosystems won't make or break psyberx as a game.
These additional developments and the potential problems that come along with them- like tokenomics impacts, security vulnerabilities of bridges, and others- could all wait until after the game is already playable and attracting players.
So correct me if I'm wrong...what you're asking for is for the game to come out first then have a chokehold because accounts won't be able to be created fast enough to keep up with demand?
I probably read your sentiment wrong, and I apologize if I did. I read your feeling that more needs to be released, and I'm super excited to see what comes out because of the potential, but at the same time, isn't a proposal all about saying, "This is what I want to do, when I'll do it, how I'll do it, and the time I have to do it in?" So far, I feel like most of the "big accounts" that have replied to this have seen it as one proposal without stepping back to understand it is a roadmap/plan of what @psyberx is expecting to ask for.
If they have 11 proposals (I think I read that right), doesn't it make sense to know the game plan at the macro level before voting on each individual proposal on the micro?
I say, let's see what the first "micro" proposal is, see if it has the proper milestones, etc. and vote on these one at a time. They have been revealing updates for a while now. I've seen their website get developed, their marketplace pre-view, their gameplay pre-view, etc. Once the marketplace is released, that's just one more amongst many signs that they're developing this, not rug pulling...this isn't a "Rising Star" with 13 daily active players...
just my 2 Hive cents...
I'll donate any resource credits I have, if there's a way to do that...
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No I am certainly not asking for the game to be released and have a "chokehold" on accounts.
I think it is realistic to expect some sort of demonstration of the things I have suggested. All we have seen so far is a buggy single player experience. Sure there has been some development on the website and on the marketplace- neither of which demonstrate the ability to go from buggy single player unity experience to full fledged multiplayer brawler with direct connections to assets on chain. In fact the existence of the marketplace before the assets can be used in game is somewhat concerning by itself.
I also think it is completely ludicrous to ask for 2.7 million USD just to fund hive accounts! If the game wants to provide a free player experience there are other ways that don't require this from the community- for example players could play for free and without a hive account until they have earned enough LVL to fund the creation of an account and start to withdraw earnings and acquire NFT's. Besides which the amount of HP being requested in one of these proposals could also be used to claim account creation tokens regularly using its RC.
As I suggested in a previous comment- at this time there is no reason to think that this amount of accounts will be needed until we have seen what the game is actually going to be capable of.
I agree that getting a macro overview of the intended direction is beneficial- and each of the individual proposals will indeed be voted on their own merit. Having said that- claiming that the project will need a million new hive accounts looks to me like an attempt to drive more hype... and most of what we have seen so far is just that... hype.
Acknowledging the achievements of games like RS and other HIVE games that actually function on chain and have communities engaged in them is important. These games are successful without asking for additional funds from the community. They are proof that developing crypto games is possible- and difficult- yet the difficulty in what psyberx wants to achieve is far far greater. Skepticism on this is totally reasonable!
As I have said in comments many times before- I acknowledge the difficulty of this project, and wish it the greatest of success- but I won't be backing it until such time that it can demonstrate it can deliver on what it promises. Even waiting until then- it will still be early.
In my opinion the 1 million is not enough yet we will see, no proposal will be launched for some time, this is merely a preliminary announcement to talk with the community, so if many agree with you things will change and maybe proposals will be scrapped all together. The main purpose of this is to find more strong Hive Developers to join us whether funded partially with Hive or not is fine, just speeds things up.
I understand that! I am just providing my feedback and opinions on this. I don't believe the best use of the DHF is the funding of hive accounts- and I don't believe that a project that has already had a substantial raise through token and NFT sales should be pursuing further funding in this way when we still have very little to go on!
awesome answer thanks! we will be delegating HIVE Power to @psyberx for these.
To reiderate this is just a preliminary announcement on proposals to come, you have some great points, not all are agreed with yet taken into consideration and we will adjust or scrap these accordingly. The roadmaps have been laid out and withint 3-4 months we should have that workable demo. The primary reason for this is to get some strong developers to apply for work as we do not expect any of this to pass yet have ambitions to help the blockchain grow via onboarding and developing a feeless swap and will fund it either way.
I understand all of that. I eagerly await that demo. There are lots of projects that are making onboarding a priority and I don't think any of them funded the account tokens with the DHF!
in coming months we will prove we are not like the other projects.