The Disease of Belief in Authority and Order Following

in Deep Dives3 years ago (edited)


A few days ago two state gang-thugs shoved a 75 year old who was in their face. He fell back to the cement and started bleeding from his ear. This is the reality of the problem.

Yes, racial profiling happens, and racial minorities are targeted more by police. But the real problem is police. It doesn't matter what color your skin is, these thugs will impose violence on you and even kill you, no matter what race you belong to. It's not black vs. white that's the issue. It's blue vs. everyone else that's the issue. It's authority vs. everyone else that's the issue.

It may be that this 75 year old is an agitator. He might be part of Antifa. I hate Antifa. They are the fascists among the people who are legitimately protesting. But someone being Antifa and getting up in the face of some riot police being ordered to "clear out" an area, is no excuse to shove him around.

Order following is no excuse. Yet, that's what boot lickers an cop apologists say to justify this behavior by order followers. They are just doing their job. What a bullshit excuse.

Police brutality demonstrates the illusion and fantasy of what many believe the police are: officers of peace. They aren't there to protect us. They are there to protect the masters and the system to keeps the elite master class going about their looting of everyone else. If you don't get that, go read We Are Watching The Story Of America Crash Headlong Into The Reality Of America by Caitlin Johnstone.

There is no excuse for the above, or other police brutality. People have rights to protests and not move. And if you want to follow orders like a good little bitch, then you can do it without pushing people down and beating them with sticks or shooting them in the eye with rubber bullets.

Hi. I’m a social worker. I work with adults with severe autism. Im TCI certified. My coworkers and I regularly have to subdue v strong and v aggressive individuals and we do so w no weapons & causing no respiratory distress or harm to the Person.
Police have no excuse.

There are idiots who comment that someone like the old guy or anyone else who allegedly "tries to grab a gun" deserves it. Amazing how people justify this.

The two cops that pushed this guy down, got suspended. As a result, the whole riot unit reigned from the riot unit, not from their jobs as state thugs.

They were then also brought up on charges. About fucking time more of this happens. Now you might think there are good cops. AS far as I'm concerned, a good cop is one that goes and finds another job. None of the "good cops" have been stopping their fellow blue-bloods from beating people or shooting at them. They just stand around and protect their "brother" or "sister" and defend their violence. The group think is so bad sometimes they just all join in and start beating people up because one started doing so.

When the two cops were charged with felony assault, they walked outside the Buffalo City Courthouse and were greeted by applause from their cops blue colleagues. Applause, for shoving an old guy down where he then bled from his head/ears.

These are the scum you think care about you and your rights. They are order followers from their masters, and they want us to follow their orders as their masters. If we don't obey, we get pushed around, beat up or killed. And don't even think you have the right to defend yourself from these terrorists who are using violence for political ends, ordered to do so by their political masters. You can rightfully do so, but you will probably be killed by them and they will get away with it.

The whole problem is a belief. The belief in authority. The belief that some people have the right to impose violence on you. the right to steal form you. The right to assault you. The right to murder you. This is where order following comes from.

These people do wrongs because they are told to, because they get a paycheck for doing it. And they all work in gang that supports each others immoral behavior, defending each other. Even if there are no orders, they just choose to do wrongs and their brethren choose to defend them in their immorality.

The world is like Star Wars, where the Empire is the state/government, and the storm troopers and the thug order followers that enforce the dictates of the high authorities. The storm troopers (police) order followers are not the good guys.

To really change things for the better, people need to go beyond the racial issue, and get down to the core root issue of belief in authority and order following. This is why some people have more rights than others, and deny the basic rights of others, and get away with immoral behavior, with wrongs that harm others.


Even if you have 99 good cops who do not hold 1 bad cop accountable for his misconduct, you have 100 bad cops.

Yes, the only good cops are the ones who snitch on the rest.
Which means there are VERY few good cops.

Oh, I did have quite an argument with a family member who expressed a preference for doing what gets the right outcome for them, over what is actually right. However, as much as I give props to the author for admitting that Antifa are scum while still calling out the wrongs of the police, you simply can't fight extremism with moderism. If Antifa are regularly dehumanising good, decent people using the Alinsky playbook then I can see little harm in destroying them like the subhumans that they are; the chosen people of the false god of bioleninism.

Exactly. You get it :)

Let me quote something: "There are 2 types of evil people in the world: Those who do evil, and those who do nothing when they see evil being done."

Came across this today. Apparently this guy has a long record of being Antifa(there was another link going into detail I can't find) and was trying to NFC hack police equipment. Watch this slow mo video of him moving his phone around.

And I also will note that cops still shouldn't be pushing people over like that anyway, and there is tons of evidence of police being violent and hitting people even for no crimes. The crime of cyberhacking stuff shouldn't be to almost get killed by being pushed to the ground so I agree with that.

Check out the video of him waving his phone around the police equipment trying to make a connection.

I looked up info on NFC as I am not versed on it and I came across this

"As far as the NFC protocol is concerned, the close distance is all that’s necessary for a valid transfer.

No password or credential requirements! NFC connections are established automatically and do not require any form of login or password entry in the way that Wi-Fi does. This has the potential for some real problems since anyone can establish an NFC connection with your device as long as they get close enough.
Imagine if you bumped up against a virus-infected NFC device? It would only take one bump for you to catch it."

@truthforce writing

Watch out!!! WE GOT A PHONE WAVER HERE! Take him out! LOL :P

Do you know that's what he was doing, trying to hack the signal? I heard that before, but there is no evidence other than some old guy waving his hand with a phone in it. Maybe. If so, why do other people handle actual physical threats with better care:

Hi. I’m a social worker. I work with adults with severe autism. Im TCI certified. My coworkers and I regularly have to subdue v strong and v aggressive individuals and we do so w no weapons & causing no respiratory distress or harm to the Person.
Police have no excuse.

Cops are just out of control. If they thought he was hacking and wanted to arrest him, you grab someone, not push them back when they are old...

Cops are just out of control.

maybe, but i fail to see that here.. this seems like a staged event.

my favorite is how his head falls out of frame before impact, or perhaps how that other guy comes up.. looking like he is gonna shove.. then the other guy does it..

seems.. unnatural.

Cops are just out of control.

and perfectly timed to wrap up the plannedemic..

and the media seems perfectly alright with these folks getting together to riot and loot.

but won't call that out of control?

how does looting = justice?

Self-control. Why push people around so much when it doesn't need to be that way? Their out of control because they lack self control to handle situations better.

perhaps. and I am all for better self control.

but I am supicious when the this Floyd worked at an elite club with the very cop that killed him.

He's got a phone, take em out boys!!! ;)

I agree, they shouldn't be pushing people over and doing things like this.

Then the cops should have basic security procedures in place to lock out NFC. Turn off bluetooth. Basic OPSEC shit. Don't be pushing old men.

I am older than that old guy (nearly going on 78) and the way I think of it...if I cause shit, I expect to be treated just like anyone else and would not be angry that I was knocked down.

The only ones I do not allow that ANY violence is permitted is when the troublemaker is a child. There, we adults should know how to handle them without violence.

And your evidence that he started shit justifying that kind of reprisal is...

I would like to know the non-hyperbolic rationale for supporting these two officers. I realize it's difficult for us, the ones who see them as thugs. But we must realize that the people who support these two officers do not see them as thugs. Do they see them as heroes? I doubt it. Do they see them as some kind of victims? Perhaps.

I've watched news coverage and they just show that they have support. No more detail than that. Is it blind support for anyone in uniform? Are there details we're not seeing?

I'm not trying to make excuses for them. I'm trying to understand the support.

You asked for it. Okay here it goes. We cannot all have personal body guards. You either have to pay your protection money (taxes) to this group of thugs or you may not even have the option with the other thugs.

The rioters gunned a 70-year-old old down in cold blood (David Dorn). If police magically all left their jobs tomorrow, don't you think the commies wouldn't use that to try to create a regime change by doing more of the same?

I didn't ask to replace one hyperbolic argument with another.

leprechauns are allowed to be hyperbolic, especially when they speak the unsavoury truth, so you get my tick of approval :)

People believe the education system and media that perpetually insist the government and its enforcers work for us, and no evidence to the contrary seems to sway them. But maybe I am too cynical.

I do understand that position. It's misinformed, of course. If they worked for us, we could fire them. They think voting is the process, but it's not. If I got a bill for bad service, I could just not pay it. That's not the case with government.

Caitlin Johnstone wrote a new article on top 5 reason people defend this. I haven't read it, but maybe it will answers some things?

That first video.

Was absolutely heart-breaking.

I don't know what to say except that people are always looking for a reason to do something. This is that "something." And racism simply adds fuel to our raw wild desires.


Yeah the police are goons.

We are deeply divided by our race, religious beliefs and culture. I once met a man who told me " Irregardless you are white, black, yellow or brown, when we have a cut, we still bleed with the same red blood.

Its sad that some people can't see past their preconceive view of the world.

Animals bleed red too. They have teeth, tongues, mouths, eyes, ears... people don't make many connections. Eating plants of various kinds gives us all the nutrients we need and leave the animals alone.

Racism now exists between people of the same race, sounds surreal but it's true

Yeah, it's messed up, that white lady who wants white people exterminated, sitting on some board of some organization or something. I'd have to go look it up if you want.

Reading the article and some of the comments, I am left to wonder - are any of you living in the cities which are soon to fire all their police and leave it to each of you to protect yourselves? What of when you are at work (or is that no longer going to happen) and your family are without you...are you going to trust everyone to watch out for them?

By taking arguments to extremes we are allowing the communists to win as we encourage the dissolution of our society.

Remember, your argumet may be right...but it is just as important that you search for a wise answer also.

That's why people need to know self-defense and arm themselves to protect their property. Communists want to take your guns. Maybe they will say no police, and no firearms ownership :P

OMG what’s Going On

very just. very well explained from A to Z