Disclaimer
Nothing moves me against any Hive user, project, I actually have very good relation with some of them
But, at least me (this post is all about "is just me?", and I'm waiting for your participation and opinions if you have one and want to give it) need some clarification about @valueplan.
Just to contextualize a bit, @valueplan is a project/group of DHF proposals owned by 5 users, @guiltyparties , @blocktrades, @crimsonclad, @smooth or @theycallmedan where 3 of them ( @blocktrades, @smooth and @theycallmedan) alone, have HP almost enough to approve a DHF proposal.
For those who don't know, in 2022 @valueplan got from DHF 400k HBD, the biggest amount for a DHF proposal.
The image below is the outgoing transfers of @valueplan from the last 8 days, maybe @guiltyparties , @blocktrades, @crimsonclad, @smooth or @theycallmedan (the key holders of @valueplan) want to give us a detailed explanation.
You can check all outgoing transfers from @valueplan here: https://peakd.com/@valueplan/wallet
My questions
- Who decide to give a lot of money to a rally car (@ssekulji) that didn't compete yet? where are the competitions and what exposure that competitions will have? what is the expect return? what are the guarantees that the car will compete?
- Why @hivecreators (a projet that already received in 2022 about 17k HBD from DHF) integration on valueplan? To make graphics? Why transfers from @valueplan to individual users for graphics to CBW when there are @hivecreators project?
- Why there are transfers from @hivecreators to CBW event and at same time also from @valueplan?
- Why there are transfers to SWC event from @hivecreators and at same time also from @valueplan?
- How much it effectively costs to DHF the CBW event, more than HiveFest? what is the return to Hive Ecosystem?
- How much it costs to DHF the SWC event and what is the return to Hive Ecosystem?
I guess if you go to the @valueplan outgoing transfers you might found to yourself some more questions about why and how the DHF funds are being used
You might want to read https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@cryptosimplify/transparency-on-hive-dhf-funds, it have detailed info of some projects supported by @valueplan and made some interesting questions and opinions.
To finalize
@valueplan also support for example Ghana Wells that I have no questions because it's all clear and the objectives they set themselves are very well detailed to the entire community as you can see in the posts of @mcsamm that I support 100%.
I could keep posting Hive graphics as usual and have fun, completely ignore this questions, don't touch with the users I mention here and maybe upset them, but community funds are much much more important than me and I simply can't ignore this questions and I really have these questions.
400k HBD it's a lot of money!!!
I don't blame you if you prefer igone the questions that I made
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https://peakd.com/hive-167922/@cryptosimplify/transparency-on-hive-dhf-funds
I was already keeping up to date with this valueplan news. I will read most of posts in valueplan just for sake of being up-to-date with the community.
Yeah @cryptosimplify , that is my personal friend, also have made some good questions and well detailed some @valueplan support projects
Who doesn't like transparency? Seeing GP comments, I think you can wait a little. Also we are already waiting for some other peeps xD
Yeah I'm waiting, for the report and also other opinions, even different than mine
I'm also curious to understand some moves and even I don't understand some moves I guess there would exist a good explanation to them
I follow you but understand you're talking about and I probably never will and it's not you it's me and that's just the way it is.
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Thank you @doze for not keeping your thoughts to yourself and instead sharing them. It's what really helps to improve ecosystem activities and operations. Like @GuiltyParties suggested, perhaps you should wait for a follow-up report, which I believe is in the works. It might be more beneficial to better educate you. But thank you for your ongoing encouragement and designs. I truly appreciate your assistance, especially in designing the t-shirts we have recently used for the Ghanaian community during our hive borehole promotional events.
No problem buddy. There are things that I think will not be explained by that report but let's wait for that report.
I think you expect too much. The same as you write the post. This is not said with any aggression.
Detailing this is too much to write in a comment maybe even in a post. to really get to the debts a conversation over a period of time would be needed. One were something is discuss. Parties go away think about what was said and bring back their retort. This would need to continue as different things were gone through. Dismissed or integrated.
Basically, on the surface of things yes it looks very suspicious. But then we might be best not to jump to a conclusion.
For the car thing. I can understand your view. It might just be that it is a new entry to car racing and Hive will be advertised on the car. When the car is Due to begin racing would be nice to know on this.
The reason why you see what you see is systematic. When the same systems of life. (society) Work in a specific manner of influence. are mirrored or copied to create something new. They don't. All they due is duplicate. Hive blockchain runs the same way FIAT does. Until everything is not about the FIAT. You will see this same thing everywhere you look. An alternative needs to be built from the ground up to expand to all area's of life/society, before beneficial changes for citizens can be made.
Thanks for your opinion 👍
I have questions and the post is about those questions, if you don't have that questions, or others, about valueplan it's ok, I don't blame you.
Just looking through the wallet and someone is very unlucky losing their laptop in a flood and many many unexpected costs. Those dam floods!!
Rally Car: The race is in January and it's a world championship. The costs for it must be paid this year. The car will race in Monaco (week-long event) and then in Croatia (in the spring). Hive gaining access to an event in Monaco where we will be the only crypto could have insane results.
Hivecreators: This is just the design team that's been used for almost all events so far. It creates all the merch designs, booths, social media, etc. They've been working through the night on some of the projects.
CBW: This was the first massive conference we've ever done. It took a lot of coordination. The transfers are like this just for logistical purposes but they're all labeled as CBW. We are still sorting through all the invitations and opportunities we gained from it.
SWC: These events are designed to engage brands and lead to Hive being adopted by them. They're national level sporting events and so far have got a lot of attention from businesses and the government.
There is an annual reporting coming up soon that will be presented in several pieces. It does take us some time to compile so expect it over the next 3-4 weeks. Unfortunately 400 HBD or 600 HBD or even a million is nothing in comparison to what our competitors are laying out. We can't beat them with money but we can beat them pushing in a few key places where we already have resources.
If is that, we even have to care more and choose better where we spend the money of all community, right?
Anyone can submit a proposal like this? I mean, I don't know how this works, do you have a documentation about this? I'd love to get more involve in projects like these!
A marketing/promo project under VP can be submitted by anyone. There is a scope: the event must be outward facing (aimed at introducing Hive to people) and it cannot involve "get free money" type messages. The events also can't be political or non-inclusive in nature.
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Thanks for the response but still with almost the same question...
Let's see:
"world championship", what world championship? WRC???
What race in Monaco? WRC race? F1 race? Monaco have 39k population, are you sure that a simple car race in Monaco have that importance you think it will have? To be honest I'm not sure of that.
In Croacia how many races?
Why there are transfers to CBW and SWC event (and other events) from @hivecreators and at same time also from @valueplan? How much do you pretend to transfer till the end of the year to graphics creation?
How much it effectively costs to DHF the CBW event, more than HiveFest? How "massive" it was? Numbers? I've looked at CBW Twitter and in dozens of twittes from them I just see one talking about Hive.
I been looking for CBW photos and most of them I see hivers talking to hivers. How massive it was for non hivers? Because if it is mainly hivers to hivers we should talk more about a meetup than a conference, don't you agree?
Why there are transfers to SWC event from @hivecreators and at same time also from @valueplan?
How much it costs to DHF the SWC event and how much you pretend to transfer to them till end of the year?
Where are the proof of attention from businesses and the government?
It's not 600, it's 400k that you got from DHF. You got the right to distribute them as you wish, I think community have the right to know if the 400k are well, fair, supportive and transparent distributed.
There is an annual report that's coming up soon. Due to the length of the report and to keep comments in order we'll publish each section of the report separately. Originally we were intending to have it out right before the new year but now some news media contacts have advised that we must have it by mid December and then have the actual Hive year end around the same time, so it's coming up fast.
CBW was far bigger than HiveFest in terms of impact. The results are beyond what anyone projected.
Guiltyparties...
Thank you for taking your time but you are not answering my questions, you gave us a "corporate" answer. Don't assume i'm stupid, please :)
Is that you that make the transfers from valueplan, right? From what I'm seeing, without an explanation, there are unclear transfers, duplicated transfers, do we need to wait until December to understand? Ok!
There are no duplicate transfers and all transfers are labeled. They are gathered by memo label, with the project name specified, not by receiving account. I've already said on the previous post, all very well documented, that the report will explain the projects in detail. I can't explain a massive project and its gains in a comment in five seconds.
You are kidding, right? 😁
No.
This is epic lol gonna screenshot for future memories.
Gonna wait for the numbers of your report to see how impactable it was.
you don't have to screenshot it, it is on a blockchain 😁