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RE: NOPAL4U Guidelines 1.0

in #community5 years ago

A couple things.

First: A good and usable front end requires rules and requirements for use. The secret is to find that balance and it looks like you guys are on the right track. Except for

Doxxing. Either it is or isn't ok. Not sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. Either-Or. If you have a known scammer that needs to be doxxed I'd much rather the team be involved in this rather than adjudicate it after. In other words, if the team decides then THEY do it.

Nicely done. Haters gonna hate. Dickheads gonna dick. Really nasty people gonna be gone. I'm good with that.

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Have some SHIT.

Those some new bots without any stake you're upvoting yourself with, or just obsequious panderers hoping to suck an upvote out of you?

BTW, would you comment on your position regarding the Downvote Pool? I'd be interested in what you think of it.

What means doxxing @bigtom13?

Doxxing is exposing a person's off line information. Like Name, Address, Phone Number. That's the reason I think it can't be OK except in the most extreme circumstances.

Thank you for your kind and prompt reply @bigtom13

Appreciate it a lot.
Piotr

You're not wrong about doxxing, but I note some other problems with the proposed guidelines, such as 'over the top humor'.

These proposed guidelines are horribly vague.

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If you are talking about people responding to valued customer you are way out of line. Though I do not agree with everything he says there are many times I value his post and find him intellectually stimulating. He's always open to debate, cordial to myself and I do not intend to stop communicating with him because you are on the outs with him for whatever reason.

I fully agree with @sunlit7.

@Valued-customer is indeed very valuable here within communities.

Yours
Piotr

If you are pulling the 'over the top humor' from the other post where I quoted the guidelines from our really old post, those are meant mostly for Discord.

We do intend to revise a different set eventually for palnet.io instead, as you are correct, some of them really shouldn't apply here the same way they do in chat.

We would value input on these, if you want to get a hold of me in Discord, we can figure out a good way to get suggestions taken in.

The first thing I'd recommend would be to NOT try to be everybody's platform. Communities are coming, and the one size fits all model fits no one best. Bespoke communities are going to fit most people best. PAL should aim for a particular market segment, and not try to fit all the outliers in. The rules should reflect that focus.

Without knowing the target audience, there's no way to set rules. However, as you can see, until you set rules, you're going to have folks really not fitting in, and turmoil and drama will result. We're at the beginning of the social media communities revolution, and jumping in to see if the water is fine is a good start, but as you note it's time to better define the parameters of the sea folks will be swimming in.

Also, Discord broke. Dunno why. I haven't been able to get in for weeks now. Maybe I'm banned? Never got any notice of any such thing. It just won't open anymore.

I have heard "communities" mentioned numerous times here on Steem. But in context of Steem, what does "communities" mean? Is it a feature set or something else? I have tried digging around to know about it but I can't seem to find anything...

#sbi-skip

PALnet is a kind of community that is on top of Steem. Stinc has been proposing making communities like PALnet possible, but @aggroed just made one instead of waiting. As far as I know, PALnet is the first Steem community, and reveals a glimpse of a new kind of society that is coming.

Stinc hasn't yet enabled communities, but Steem Engine and @aggroed have, and PALnet is the first one. Let's hope there are more soon.

Oh i thought it's more like a concrete feature set than the regular definition of community lol.
Thank you for the answer.

#sbi-skip

NOTE: This account @swelker101 keeps threatening me! @aggroad thanks! Can you please block him from flagging me, that is not fair!

My vote does not work on him, why should his vote work on me???

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https://www.palnet.io/steempress/@swelker101/ptzcl7

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Here is my letter to our Leader!

Hope she can help us all!

Hi @elipowell, this guy keeps threatening me, trying to antagonize me after I said I would not flag or bother anyone anymore if he/they stop! I will stop flagging innocent comments, however when I see @swelker101 flagging me every time it makes me want to retalliate!

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Today they DDOS my replies on steemit so I can't see them!

It is totally obvious which accounts to ban/block! Please for everybody!

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What means doxxing @valued-customer?

Doxxing is revealing personally identifying information on someone, slang for releasing documents that reveal such information. Home addresses, phone numbers, SSN's, credit card numbers, and the like are all information that isn't safe to reveal on the internet, and doxxing is releasing that information on the internet.

How could there be a rule against over the top humor?? I am a comedian, sorry to them if they don't get my jokes!

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Well, Discord is not a free speech friendly platform. The management can ban anyone, and any discord, if they find content they don't like there. Hopefully PAL is gonna be much different, despite that it is no less centrally managed than Discord at present.

I've not noted anyone laughing at any of your comments here. Drama isn't humor IMHO. I get you're outraged at the censorship you're subjected to, but unless you expect to somehow compel PAL to relent, doubling down isn't going to improve your situation.

It's centralized. You're not the center. PAL probably isn't gonna laugh at your jokes. Good thing communities are coming, and over the top comedians might find a home. Honestly, you and Bernie seem to be sorta naturals for such a community. XD

Yeah you got me there. That last comment was actually the joke because everything else I said before was for real. I was just trying to make the best light out of the situation at hand. I was really pissed every day for the last month, and just reacting. Every Haiku that came out ofvmy mouth was 💯 genuine, not planned at all. I’m over pal, I did my one post per 24 hours, and wasted it on a comment to @aggroad! I forgot the blockchain does not differentiate between posts and comments! duh! I realized that after reading a comment by @themarkymark the other day on his blog as I was erasing them! I think I know why he choose that name, it stands for the themarkofthebeast! lol! I am not really a comedian, just looking back sometimes I cone up with funny quips here and there! Thanks for straightening me out. I’m just going to try to slow down a little.

Prolly the best course of action you can take presently. Anger can be a great servant, but it's a terrible master, just like government.

NOTE: This account @swelker101 keeps threatening me! @aggroad thanks! Can you please block him from flagging me, that is not fair!

My vote does not work on him, why should his vote work on me???

Screen Shot 2019-07-02 at 10.39.03 AM.png

https://www.palnet.io/steempress/@swelker101/ptzcl7

Screen Shot 2019-07-02 at 10.44.53 AM.png

Here is my letter to our Leader!

Hope she can help us all!

Hi @elipowell, this guy keeps threatening me, trying to antagonize me after I said I would not flag or bother anyone anymore if he/they stop! I will stop flagging innocent comments, however when I see @swelker101 flagging me every time it makes me want to retalliate!

Screen Shot 2019-07-02 at 10.39.03 AM.png
Today they DDOS my replies on steemit so I can't see them!

It is totally obvious which accounts to ban/block! Please for everybody!

Screen Shot 2019-07-02 at 10.50.15 AM.png

Follow @coininstant for more!